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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;

    Introduction

    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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As if on cue, Joe Reedy (Bengals beat reporter) tweeted that the Bengals 2012 season ticket prices were lowered up to 33%.

SWB, shocked at your confidence in the Bengals to win at home vs. a motivated Ravens team that needs the win for their first home-field playoff game in years, especially given how shat the Bengals have been against quality opponents this year (and frankly against the garbage teams too, needing to eek out wins against the likes of Cleveland). I'll gladly take the money you mention you are considering "wagering" ;)

Interesting stuff on the attendance- love that Bengals were forced to pay NFL for the free seats and now are steeply lowering ticket prices... will make it that much sweeter in 2012 when they see the same 40,000 turnout.


Hey, that's great and *you know it* !

Downtown with Mike Brown
(and I don't mean downtown at the Riverfront in Cincy, I mean downtown....STUPID-TOWN, thats' what I mean)

Go Bengals, kick their balls (and I don't just mean on the three-and-outs).
C'mon do it! Knock them junk around!

On Sunday, we do not eat crow.
On Sunday, we dine on RAVENS (just like a cornish game hen)!!!


WhoSaySerious?

WHÖ DËY !!!


"this season has been the best of all worlds here: the team is doing well on the field and fans are sending Mike Brown a message"


Now see right there that's it!

And if anyone remains confused:

* Read it

* Live it

* BE IT,

WhoDeyHeads!!!


WHO DEY !!!

Interesting article Bieniemy. I also wonder how the seat liscence dynamic played in to this drop in attendance. I remember comments from many season ticket holders last spring mentioning they were not going to renew even though they would lose their seat liscence. It seems a lot of fans reasoned that the seat liscence fee amortized over 10 years was their cost/benefit breaking point. In other words, they didn't mind giving up the fee to get out of paying for Mike's product.

I like your reasoning, and I think the fact that we were still selling out during the height of the economic collapse in 2008 and 2009 makes it easier to argue that this is Mike Brown and not the economy that's causing all those empty seats. Unfortunately, when we sell 20,000 seats after a BOGO offer, I'm expecting every voice on TV tomorrow to attribute this to cost and not ownership. As always, it's more likely some mix of the two.

Now, what would truly be the best of both worlds is if we make the playoffs, beat the Texans (doable), and by some miracle get by the Pats/Steelers/Ravens in Round 2 and see Oakland in the AFC title game - great narrative against Carson and, more importantly, our second round pick becomes a first round pick.

It's just too bad that's not going to happen.

@sexonthebeach - Ravens have been pretty bad on the road this year. If young players can control emotions and harness energy of home crowd, you should see a really inspired effort too. But yes, the Ravens are a better team. Let's just say I wouldn't wager too much on the Bengals here. And unfortunately, you will probably see a pretty big rebound in our attendance with with ticket prices down and promising young core.

@Mike Brown's Lumina - it's annoying part of fans dropping season tix and then renewing, Brown Family gets another bonus round of money for COA (seat license) purchases. They are expensive though, my guess is they'll have to drop that cost too. Once people take a hard look at getting new tix and see $900 for a COA they may give it a second thought.

Things are at a tipping point I would say.

If the Bengals managed to win on Sunday, Mike Brown could go back to Candyland.

If the Ravens beat the tar out of the Bengals, fans might not show up in 2012 even if tickets were free.

Gregg Doyel really nails it, especially the comment about us all knowing this season is a mirage.....

I have $40 on the Ravens giving up 2 points rather than going with them straight up since it was a larger return giving up the points. I put my other $10 on the Chiefs to shut up Tebow. My only concern in losing my money is that the Ravens shit the bed since they suck on the road. But since they are presently the better team, I will be amazed if that actually happens. Regardless this is going to be a great fight to watch.

I agree with don'toccupy. If the Ravens knock the shit out of the Bengals Sunday, fans are going to be irate. This would only benefit our cause, and possibly spare us from having the Steelers in the Super Bowl again.


Regarding the attendance, I think you made some great points and are on the right track. I would also like to add some additional thoughts:

The depression (that is really what this is, but no one wants to say so to keep people from panicking) affected everyone at different times. It was like a wave, that hit certain sectors first and then other sectors months or even years later. For example, the market initially crashed in China during August of 2007 due to the failure of the bundled mortgage securities to pay out as advertised. The US did not feel the effects of the China crash until 13 months later, when housing prices dropped due to the bundled securities becoming toxic from Wall Street being unable to sell the securities anymore to overseas investors and the derivative clauses kicking in. Once the derivatives kicked in, credit evaporated since everyone on Wall Street was over-leveraged. Ohio's housing market was hit really hard since they overdeveloped the suburbs, and I was surprised to see the number of homes in foreclosure when I went home last weekend.

The US market tanked at the end of September, by November my architectural firm lost approximately 50% of our business, and we laid off staff and cut salaries around Thanksgiving of 2008. Not only did my portfolio get killed, but my monthly take home took a significant hit immediately. The construction industry didn't get really pounded until 6 months after we did since there was no longer a line of projects in the que. We did not see a rebound in new business until January of 2010, once the stock market bounced back to 10,000, and we really took off around June of 2010. Notice there is now a bump in construction sector presently. As of today, we are in a slow downward trend again in acquiring new business, so I believe we may be in a double dip already. On top of this, if the Germans can't stop the Euro from collapsing, then we are going to see a much larger credit tsunami in 2012 than we experienced in 2008.

Back to my point: public sector employees (e.g. teachers, etc.) did not really feel the effects of the crash in their take home income really until 2010. Yes, their portfolios were hit hard in 2008-2009, but their take-home income was relatively untouched until years after the collapse. Things are now starting to getting worse for them now with pay freezes, cuts in benefits, layoffs, and state funding cuts finally catching up from the years of decreased revenue.

So this is also why I think we did not see significant drops in ticket sells in 2009 or 2010. Yes, the national economy was at its lowest, but a lot people still had discretionary income and could afford upper deck seats at $60 a piece. Now things are tight for more people, and when you add to this that people are fed up with Mike Brown's antics it was a perfect storm for the ticket sales to plummet this year.

I don't think dropping the upper deck seats to $40 a ticket or having a young emerging team next season is going to be enough to fill them back up to full capacity since a lot of people are hurting out there. Things may only get worse if we see another crash in the coming months. So I think there is a good chance this trend of blackouts isn't ending anytime soon.

Stephen A. Smith bashed the Cincinnati Bengals fanbase today on ESPN's First Take saying "no disrespect to the organization" (ie MFB) but that the fans should be "ashamed of themselves" for not supporting this young winning team.

I don't tweet (yet), but if any of you do, someone please blow his shit up and get both he and Skip Bayless informed. They should both be viewed as taget Progandists #1 and #2 for The Revolution.

...sorry, Propagandists.

Just sent out a four-part Tweet to Stephen A Smith. Skip Bayless is functionally illiterate, so I won't waste my time tweeting him.

I think it will be a game for almost a half.

Then the Ravens will get a couple big plays and blow it open.

Just don't see this team winning this game. I could be wrong...

Dammit it's only 2:46am EST 1/1/12, and I can't wait for the game to start

I see the Bengals are starting this game as you'd expect they would. Giving up a 70 yard TD run where Rice wasn't even touched.

17-3 near the end of the first half.
Real "battle" there Bengals, LOL

Typical Bungals. Stupid mistakes and bad calls.

Looks like they still might back into the playoffs.

Backed in to the playoffs on the strength of the worst group of playoff-seeking teams in a long time.
They *all* suck!

Every time I get to thinking the fans of Cincinnati will wise up... I see all the Koolaid drinkin' "Who Dey!" folks already predicting glorious victories over the Texans and scheming how we're gonna beat New England's bad defense. LOL. The crack they hand out at PBS is might strong.

Ppl like do not occupy are what's wrong with this site. There is hatting ownership and their stupid actions and just plain hating the team. DNO just plain seems to hate this team and anyone that roots for it, which is just plain sad

saw the Bengals score while I was working...dang.

Harley-

David-

SONOFABITCH

Oh well, we knew they'd have trouble

Well, that's no way to stay in the playoffs, is it?

There are years there are so many good teams that there simply aren't enough play-off spots for every deserving squad. This is not one of those years. You know, 5 of 12 teams backed into the play-offs yesterday, so to a small degree, #DNOPBS does have a point...

...but as it was said several weeks ago, this is not the BCS; this is the NFL. Making the play-offs is still making the play-offs. If someone would have posted on this site prior to week 1 that we'd make the play-offs this year, he would have been dubbed a 'kood aid drinker' and ridiculed for weeks. Being objective (or fan-biased, for that matter) about this team is wholly different than hating the management. The current list of contributors has been very bad about this. Continued line-blurring hurts our cause.

MFB made money for a single game this season, and that was yesterday. So what. Next year will be the same... unless he keeps doing outragous ticket deals like he did on Sunday. Isn't that a win for WDR?

Here's the other thing. Do I think we're poised for a deep run? No - the very fact that we are even here is as much of a pleasant shock to me as it likely is for most. However, of all 12 teams (AFC & NFC) that are in the play-offs only Denver would have been a better match up for us in the wild card round. Is this game winnable? Yes. Very. Much more so than Sunday.

In 2009, I knew in my gut that the Jets were going to crush us. I'm really liking us in this match up. If the "real" possiblity of Cincinnati winning its first play-off game in 20 years doesn't fire you up, you don't have pulse.

Now, if they win, Brady will shread our secondary. There. A little reality for the cynics.

If the ending of yesterday's game was different then you expected, then you don't understand the game that well. The Raven's had the better team, they won the chess match throughout most of the game, they executed better, and the ref's helped them out a little with some bullshit calls or helpful no-calls. Fundamentally the Ravens are a good team, and they are my pick to make it to the Super Bowl from the AFC side.

I was impressed how well the Bengals were able to stay in the game with everything going against them; even threatening to tie the game in the final minutes. Years ago they would have imploded and this game would have turned into a blow out. The Bengals just need to make personnel improvements at a few key spots this offseason and they will be able to win these type of games next year, especially if they can retain this mental toughness. If Mike &/or Marvin fuck it up, this is as good as they are going to get for years to come.

The Bengals do have a decent chance of winning next week, but Gruden is going to have to call one hell of a game to ensure the win. I don't see that happening against one of the best defenses in the NFL at their home stadium. Dunlap improves the defense compared to the last time they meet, but not that much since the Texans have the best OL in the NFL right now. So as of right now, you have to give the advantage to the Texans.

If they win, Gutter is right. Pats destroy the Bengals the following week.

@blesterov: One thing you fail to mention that is definitely in the Bengals' favor: Jake Delhomme, he of the 5-interception playoff game (and one lost fumble to boot), may be playing quarterback for the Texans. I haven't heard any updates on Yates' throwing shoulder, but we should all be hoping for Mr. Anti-Clutch to be slinging the football on Saturday.

Please, let there be no more 'hatting of ownership'...

The only ones I can think of that were hat-worthy were Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, and Tom Landry

(wait, Vince and Tom weren't owners , were they?)

Too late...every year, we witness the Ultimate Ass-Hatting of Ownership via Mike Brown

It is rediculous to even suggest that. It is not fair to take the actions and ideas of group of people.

Nice to be here and see your post!

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    Bengals Futility - By The Numbers

    • 20 - Years since the Bengals have won a playoff game

      0 - Total number of playoff wins in Mike Brown's tenure as owner

      .359 - Bengals regular season winning percentage since Mike Brown took over as owner (115-206-1 in 20 seasons)

      29-34-1 - Record since 2005 playoff game vs Steelers

      6 - Seasons the Bengals have lost their first six games since 1991. No other team has more than two.

      0 - Teams North of Cincinnati without an indoor practice facility

      10 - Players arrested in a 14 month span from 2005-2006

      32 - Mike Brown's ranking, out of 32, of the "Best Owners in the NFL" by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated in 2007

      458,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, that Hamilton County Taxpayers paid to build PBS

      2032 - Year that Hamilton County will have finally paid off its debt on the stadium deal

      3 - Total number of non-clerical employees employed in the Bengals scouting department, lowest in the league

      747,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, paid in free agency by the Bengals from 1994 - 2005, second worst of all 28 teams in existence for the duration, behind only Arizona

      118 – Ranking, out of 118 professional teams, of the “Worst Franchises” in professional sports, as ranked by ESPN the Magazine in 2003.

      97 – Ranking, out of 98 general managers in all four major sports with three or more years of experience, of Mike Brown’s performance as a GM, as ranked by Forbes in 2007.

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