Who do the bengals play this weekend I really have no idea I have totally checked out. Oh the jags I totally don't know how I missed that.
Carlos Dunlap is my favorite defensive player to watch since Tovar and somebody we can only hope MB lucks into locking up for a little while longer than his rookie contact. Dunlap gets consistent pressure and is somebody o-lines have to scheme for already. He looks like the type of d-line anchor you want to build around. The guy the bengals never have who makes everybody else around them better while still being able to get his own. I know people thought Geathers was this after his double digit sack season that we have never seen again but Dunlap just seem more consistent already if that makes any sense.
I still expect 2-3 after this weekend. I've just watched to many times where we've always always always let flukey rookie qb's beat us through the years. I guess we'll see if this defense is any different. Either way the fighting who dey's lost to Alex Smith two week ago so nothing would surpise me at this point.
You use to be an enjoyment to read, now I feel like your sitting at home wearing a Bengals shirt and hat with black electrical tape crossing everything Whodey related out. I feel like I am reading something written by Randy Quaid's character on Major League. What happened to your passion, what happened to looking on the bright side of things. Why is nothing good and everything horrible.
We are already 2-2 this year through 4, that's 2 more wins at this point than I initially thought we would get. Let's also not forget that one of those loses came from a decision not to kick a game winning field goal, and the other game from a last minute drive to beat us. Yes our two loses combine to a total of 7 whole points. Now I'm not saying we are a playoff team or even an above average team, I am aware we have played weak teams so far. But, 500 vs. bottom teams is okay with me right now because thats better than I thought.
Lastly, give our team some credit. Our defense is ranked third, THIRD, in the league's overall defense. It's not like we are getting old or threatening to lose this defense either, ZIMMER IS GOD. Now I know you have been complimenting our defense so I can't be too upset about that. But our offense, yes our offense isn't high and powerful and dominate, but it's getting the job done in a reasonable way right now. Let's also not forget to mention how young we are. Rookie QB, rookie WR, Sopohmore TE, Sophomore WR, and soon to be Rookie RB once Ced is gone soon enough. This offensive squad has more potential to be good and explosive in a year or two than any Bengal offense I have seen in the past. We have young weapons on this offense that will develop once they mature.
Please stop making me think I am reading an Indian's blog written by Randy Quiad, have some hope again, bring back the optimism...WHODEY
Posted by: Will | October 07, 2011 at 09:40 AM
Will,
I agree with some of your points, but I would like to point out that the Bengals are currently 1st in overall defense based on yardage and 6th in points allowed - I'm not sure where you got the third place from, but that's directly from NFL.com statistics.
I do agree that Klingered should probably take a break from writing here for a while - not only have his last couple of posts been overwhelmingly negative, they've also been semi-coherent and, at times, hard to understand. When wch is accurately calling you out on your grammar and syntax, maybe it's time to take a break and refocus. It almost feels like Klingered has been Bungalized and has given up all hope of effecting change. That's not a position that really needs to be voiced, especially on this blog, in my opinion. Even when SWB's at his most negative, he's still very clearly a Bengals fan and he's willing to admit when things are better than what he expected. That's completely missing from this post, and it drags the overall tone of the site down.
And I also agree that things are better than what I expected going into the season. I projected the Bengals to get a maximum of three wins, and while they can still underachieve to that milestone, it certainly feels like they could pick up a couple more wins than I thought.
Posted by: Wyatt | October 07, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Mike Brown still calls the shots. We might even see an 8-8 season at some point!! But why celebrate mediocrity? For many of us, we have been here before. For twenty years and counting. That's why I love to rib people on here with "Hope Springs Eternal". Yes you can always find positive things. No, it never really leads to anything good in the end. When we have a team that can manage two winning seasons in a row, perhaps I'll get excited. Do you know how long that has been? What are the odds Mike keeps a team like that together?
If you have hope with what Mike Brown is doing, you should probably visit a website other than this. Most of us have been there and done that. The facts speak for themselves.
Posted by: Bob F. | October 07, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Wyatt and Will,
What's so negative about Klinglered saying Dunlap is really good and we should keep hima as long as possible. And who the fuck cares about grammar and syntax? We're american, we give less a fuck about booklearnin than mike brown does about bengals fans.
Posted by: Sly Vramavomovich | October 07, 2011 at 01:42 PM
Another MFB SHEEP happy they are .500 right now! LOL It will never end. 40,000 lost soles and I am sure Will is one of them. You even said they have played NOBODY! Of those teams the Bengals have played, name one of them that have been to the playoffs in the last 5 years? Here, I will help you out, the last time one of those teams made the playoffs was in 2004 and it was only ONE! LOL Will, you come back here and post after the Bengals have played the likes of Baltimore and Pittsburgh and then we will talk. Until then, this team is not going to sniff .500 for the whole season. Wasn't this team something like 2 and 2 after the first 4 games last year? Hmmmmmmmm How did that pan out?
Posted by: TigerJ@w | October 07, 2011 at 05:49 PM
Tiger, check it out. Its about knowing your role. We are fans. We won last week. If you can't be happy when your team wins a game, what's the point? Personally, I cheer and remain happy with a hunter orange thermal undershirt with a Wal-mart black tee shirt over it. If someone would make a damn WDR Baseball cap, I'd buy it (I actually have a great outline, if anyone has an outlit for that...) Point is, I'm not supporting Mike Brown, so I should get to enjoy the game - you should try it.
I sort of agree that we playing nobodies... but The Niners are 3-1, and if it wasn't for Tony Homo's singluar shot of brillance this year, they might be underfeated right now... granted, we lost to them, but it was good showing. However, the Bills are 3-1 and the Bengals are responsible for that. I agree that Denver and Cleveland are nobodies - nonetheless, either way you cut it, we're .500, and like Wyatt and Will, I'm pretty okay with that right now.
But to all the negative nancies who continually point out that Mike Brown is still in charge and therefore we are cursed to forever lose. We get it! and yeah, you've got a real strong arguement. But if you give that as an unalienable truth, then we are left only two things that can affect change: Either the players turn this around on their own with what they have or someone kills Mike Brown. Since no one is willing to head up to the observation deck of carew tower and snipe his ass (btw, it can be done from there), we have to look to see that perhaps, despite his efforts, Mike Brown may have inadvertantly fielded what looks to be the seeds of a good offense. That's all anyone is saying when they remark about the rookies.
And maybe hope does spring internal, Bob; but unless you're ready to get your kill on, I'd love to hear your suggestions for how I should be spending my season as a Bengals fan - because according a demographic of writers on this site, I shouldn't enjoy a win or hope for another one and god forbid if I talk about potential for enhancement. Maybe you guys should stop being Bengals fans and just return to the Nazis party... it is Zinzinnati time or thereabouts...
Lastly, Klinglered; don't post after midnight. Just don't.
Posted by: guttersnake | October 07, 2011 at 06:28 PM
WHODEY gruttesnake.
And to back up his point and my point I am in no way condoning what MB does or stands for, I hate him just as much as the next guy. But I have been a fan for 20 plus years and I will always be optimistic and take wins when I can get them.
As to accepting mediocrity...you're crazy. Because both seasons after our playoff appearances I was livid, I expected and would only accept playoffs those years. But a year like this year, following a 4-12 season and a brand new offense, I am not expecting playoffs or bust. All I expect and want out of this year is promise that we are building in the right direction. If you can't do that, how do you call yourself a fan? MB might be fooling me again as always, but I am a Bengal fan and will always cheer and be optimistic for my team.
Posted by: Will | October 07, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Who the fuck is this guy klinglered?
He can't even write in correct english...
Posted by: GRIM REAPER | October 07, 2011 at 10:40 PM
Bob F. and TigerJ@w:
For the better part of Mike Brown's reign as GM, the Bengals have SEVERELY underperformed when it came to the fanbase's expectations, and, as a fanbase, we've been righteously, and rightfully, disappointed. If that's okay, then why is it wrong to be happy when the Bengals actually do something we don't expect them to do? Going into the season, I thought they wouldn't be able to beat the Browns, so when they pulled out the week 1 victory, I was very pleased. Going into last week, I thought Marvin had been smoking Jerome Simpson's stash when he said "After this week, when we're 2-2", because the Bills legitimately looked like a dominant team going into the game. So when the Bengals won, I was thrilled.
Again, I ask you - if it's perfectly normal to be disappointed when the Bengals underperform, why is it wrong to be happy when they overperform? Especially if, like guttersnake and Will and I, you realize that this is nothing more than a transient feeling of happiness, and that the Bengals are going to return to (sub-)mediocrity at some point this season?
Seriously, man, if you can't stop to smell the roses while they're in bloom, then there's really no point in bitching about the thorns. You're further ahead to just stop going to the garden. (And, in case my metaphor wasn't clear enough, I'm basically telling you to find a new hobby because there's absolutely no reason for you to be a Bengals fan.)
Posted by: Wyatt | October 07, 2011 at 11:16 PM
I guess it all comes down to expectations. An occasional 8-8 season is not acceptable to me any more. And Mike is not able to do any better. Nor does he want to. Both he and his son-in-law have said in the past that their goal basically is an 8-8 season, which makes them "competitive". If a player they draft is too good (Eric Steinback, Jonathan Joseph), they do not resign them after their initial contract. They no longer fit in Mike's model.
Back in the Paul Brown days, Mike even complained about making the playoffs, because he said it cost the team money just to participate.
I have come to realize that, baring a change in Mike Browns philosophy, my only hope to see a Superbowl Championship is to outlive Mike Brown. And if Mike can get 4-5 wins a year, he will not change. In a sense, the only real winner yesterday was Mike Brown. In a sense, because of our situation, short term gain causes long term pain.
I've done my part. Dropped my season tickets which I had for 20 years, and look for any way I can to deny Mike Brown any "revenue".
If there are those of you out there who are Ok with all this, that is fine. I just am surprised that you come to a website like this. I think many of us are looking longer term. We do not want to be the football equivalent of the Chicago Cubs.
Posted by: Bob F. | October 10, 2011 at 09:37 AM
Bob F.,
Dropping your season tickets and make sure you're not giving Mike Brown any revenue is an excellent decision; however, if you're not going to cheer for the Bengals to win any more, what's the point in remaining a Bengals fan? You could just as easily not get Bengals season tickets and not give Mike Brown money if you were a fan of another team that actually makes you happy, at least occasionally. An 8-8 season isn't good enough for me, either, but, unlike in 2009, when each win just made me more and more miserable, I decided that I would just enjoy the little things about the Bengals that are actually good while content in the knowledge that I will outlive Mike Brown (barring an unforeseen circumstance that terminates my life early, as I'm only 31 which makes me five decades and change younger than Mike). I didn't think the Bengals would win three games all year, much less in the first five, and I'm going to enjoy this unexpected twist until they revert back to their normal ways (which undoubtedly will happen during the stretch where they play the Steelers, Browns, Ravens, and Steelers again in a four-week span). Surely there's no harm in enjoying a win that I made no financial contribution towards, so long as I keep in mind the greater goals of the revolution and don't lose sight of the fact that this team isn't going to make a Super Bowl run any time soon.
Posted by: Wyatt | October 10, 2011 at 05:39 PM
Back in the Paul Brown days, Mike even complained about making the playoffs, because he said it cost the team money just to participate.
that is just not a true statement. Not at all.
Posted by: WhoDeyFans | October 11, 2011 at 01:21 PM