Fellow comrade-in-arms, Paul Daugherty of the Cincinnati Enquirer and SI.com, was blasted by Marvin Lewis during his weekly press conference today.
"He" was never identified, but consideing Lewis's contentious relationship with the local media during his entire stint in Cincinnati, - could 'he' really be anyone else?
Is there anything you would like to say to the fans to get the attendance back up?
ML: “I can’t change people’s minds about things. You know what I mean? Someone has done a very good job of driving them away from here. And he’s been very wrong.”
You said earlier that ‘he's’ doing a good job of driving fans away. Who do you mean by ‘he’?
ML: “I said he did. So that's all I said. Nope, no clarification.”
You can find the entire transcript here.
Considering this incident - we also can't forget Enquirer reporter Dustin Dow - who was unfairly berated by Lewis in 2008 immediately following his article profiling Who Dey Revolution.


"He" is Mike Brown.
Posted by: David Lambright | October 17, 2011 at 06:04 PM
Yea, Mediocre Marv that HE would not be YOU or MFB now would it? LOL What an arrogant PRICK Marv will always be! He thinks his crap does not stink! BTW, some are saying he is talking about Carson.
Posted by: TigerJ@w | October 17, 2011 at 06:08 PM
Yeah, actually, Carson makes the most sense, based on just those couple of lines taken out of context.
Posted by: Wyatt | October 17, 2011 at 07:17 PM
Marv is a moron who will never work as a Head Coach again after he's finally tossed aside by MFB.
Posted by: #DoNotOccupyPaulBrownStadium | October 17, 2011 at 08:55 PM
I'm gonna go with Carson as the "he."
That shit with Dustin Dow is one of the reasons I really can't stand Marvin. He's a good coach - prepares his team well, teaches good fundamental football, seems like a good leader - but he's a poor game manager, and an arrogant prick when it comes to dealing with people he doesn't control. I honestly think he's just as big a reason for Carson leaving as Mike Brown. They never really struck me as having a particularly close relationship.
Posted by: Dan R. | October 17, 2011 at 09:46 PM
Wouldn't be the first time that I have heard, "its actually Marvin", in reference to #9 retirement.
I completely forgot about the Dow incident (shaking my incrediously).
Posted by: FrzrBowlSuvivor | October 17, 2011 at 10:21 PM
You are absolutely right about Marvin that he is quite poor game manager.
Posted by: property inventory london | October 18, 2011 at 04:30 AM
I think the ambiguity of the matter actually works against Marv than for this cause... by keeping the proverbial 'he' shrouded in mystery, the local media and sports pundacratcy (at least those who care) are left to speculate and dredge up all possible identities. What you get is the host of honorary or loyal comrades being brought out of the realm of the misunderstood or zealot fandom and out into the light. Part of me actually has to consider that if Marv is savy, and this is a very calculated wink the Revolution… but probably not.
Nonetheless, the takeaway from all this is that the lack of 'butts in seats' is being noticed and felt. The message is continuing to spread. MFB knows why people are coming. Lewis knows why people aren't coming. But most importantly, the fan base knows why… and those who don't are asking. This is where the WDR needs to pour it on.
If you are in Cincinnati and are central to the organization, please contact me. I've had a line on hats for the last month. They are black with orange stitching and they read "Support Your Hamilton Country Local WDR" with tribal sketched tiger heads coming off the WDR letters. You'll have to trust me, it looks tasteful. I have the option of putting "Hire a General Manger" on the back… If there is a base of people who would be interested, I can put together an order. I just need to know numbers and coordinate for funds. You can contact me through my email which is my screen name @aol.com, send me your phone number, and I'll call and go point-to-point with you. That's about all I can offer from North Carolina!
Fuck Mike Brown.
Posted by: guttersnake | October 18, 2011 at 08:41 AM
Off topic from this discussion but here you go bengal fans: http://www.danpatrick.com/2011/10/18/jay-glazer-bengals-raiders-work-out-terms-for-carson-palmer-trade/
Bengals may be getting a 1st rounder for Palmer from the Raiders...Could Mike Brown be doing something smart for once???
Posted by: Will | October 18, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Will, correction. It looks like 2 first rounders.
Spin this one into Mike being an idiot. Maybe, just maybe he was smarter than everyone here?
Posted by: WhoDeyFans | October 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Right because Mike was thinking this morning...."If they offer me a first rounder and second rounder with an escalator type clause the next year I'll deal." Please, Oak was desperate to keep their good season alive in light of Al's passing, and Hue Jackson knows Carson well. Note though, that the Carson deal came AFTER Garrard basically said he would rather have back surgery than play for the Raiders. It certainly cannot be spun into Mike being an idiot, but if this exonerates him for the last 20 years in your eyes, you need to get them checked. That said, I will give the Org. credit. They took a TERRIBLE situation (CP trade demand, non existent off season, loss of two iconic WRs, new OC) and have so far, done very well with it. DO I think Mike has realized the error of his ways? No, do I think he will perhaps continue to slowly bend on some of his stubborn idiocy regarding player personnel and facilities? Maybe, but he's still go a long way to go to reach respectability in my eyes.
Posted by: CurseofBoJackson | October 18, 2011 at 02:01 PM
Yes, I read that "he" comment and wondered whether it referred to Mike Brown, Palmer or another individual (e.g., Daugherty). Without worrying about who the "he" actually was/is, I thought about financial consequences to MB & Co. of having 1/3 of the stadium empty on game day for a season.
Figure that average set prices are about $75 and that the stadium holds about 65,500. One-third reduction in gate revenues over 10 games amounts to about $16.375 million. Now we can argue on each side of the monetary trail that some games will sell more tickets, that pre-season games aren't as highly affected (because they don't sell out anyway), that the economy would affect gate revenues anyway, that the number of vacant luxury seats isn't accurately calculated into "average" values, that losses from concessions aren't reflected etc. However, we can make a ballpark figure that Brown's Bengals have taken a hit of about $20 million this year. That all comes from MB's PR blunders that have followed shitty performance and lack of investment to keep the team on track with the rest of the league (i.e., practice facility, use of GM, scouting).
So the media finally has gotten the public to respond to this 20 year situation? No. Daugherty was saying this all along. The thing was that Mike Brown had to drive off all the excess fan interest until there wasn't even enough support to fill a stadium. Now a few wins against marginal teams probably won't get that capacity back right away. A few trades won't do it either. This franchise will have to win a playoff game because the expectations are now higher. If that doesn't happen, people won't take notice. Now we can watch the games on computer broadcasts coming from Europe in virtually real time -- no need to buy a $75 ticket and spend another $40 in parking and concessions; no need to purchase Sunday ticket; no need to even go to a bar and spend $50 to support a bar that is paying for Sunday ticket (in non-blacked out areas).
So the good thing is that market forces are finally coming to bear on Mike Brown. He's a smart and cheap enough lawyer to know that we're finally onto the profit aspect of his mismanagement. We'll see whether he can talk his way back into a full stadium or whether he'll have to finally utilize Best Practices in management to get buy back. I hope it's the latter because there is no hope for sustainable success in a competitive industry without adhering to Best Practice philosophy.
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You are absolutely right about Marvin that he is quite poor game manager.
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