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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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June 22, 2011


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If i've said it before i'll say it again. Amen. Way to hit the nail on the head for the umpteenth time.

Two things -

1) Mike Brown wanted Ryan Mallett. That we have Dalton shows a) that he can be overruled (not entirely manifesto item #2, but much closer)

2) Our LG position will be shored up by Clint Boling. From all reports, he's another Big Whit. Collins is sufficient at RT if Smith never gets his stuff together. Bobbie is still ranked #1 at his position from last year, and don't see a rapid decline (look at Willie Anderson).

Thanks, that I had forgotten how terrible our O-Line has been, and your breakdown just depressed me for the day. I often wonder why I still let Mike Brown torture me like this.

The reports leaking from the owners meetings yesterday, that teams will have to spend nearly 100% of their cap space. Wow, that's got to piss Mikey off. They're going to force him to spend money.

Sounds like a good thing but I think it will lead to overpaying guys already on the team that could be upgraded through free agency. They still don't have anyone scouting active NFL players that I have heard of.

That should eliminate Joseph and Benson not getting paid.


A new deal for Joseph was my first thought as well - let's hope it pans out.

The fact that MB doesn't understand the value of having a good o-line after all these years is exactly why it still feels like Dave Shula has never been fired


That is intriguing news, but I am willing to bet MFB will find a good attorney to feel out loopholes in the rule so he can retain his 40% contingency that he loves so much.

Since Joseph is restricted, they have the chance to match the offer in 7 days. If they don't match and he leaves town, they get the other team's 1st and 3rd rounds. The fact that the Bengal's placed such a high qualifying tender on him, I don't think he is leaving town this year. Unfortunately, that probably means - just from past history - that he gets a one year deal and then is gone at the end of next season. Hall will probably go through the same process.

1st point: Brown has shown with Marvin's drafts in the past that he is willing to listen and be overruled at times. No question about that. Take a look at the drafts from 2003-2006, and they are fairly logical for their needs at the time even though there were several poor/ unfortunate selections. After the disappointing 2006 season, everyone was on Marvin, and you may remember it was at this time Mike really openly questioned Marvin's methods. It was the 2007 offseason where I believe you see a reemergence in MFB's WTF strategy, and only one person from that draft significantly contributed to the team (Hall). This leads me to believe Mike began exerting his influence on a regular basis over Marvin at this point. This is also the period where the Chris Henry saga played out that almost led Marvin to walk away from the team b/c he was fed up with the meddling. 2008-2010 were fairly good drafts aside for a few exceptions, but the point is they ignored their biggest need during that period: OL. As a result, they let Palmer get beat to hell repeatedly and completely ruined his career in the process.

2nd Point: Again betting that a 3rd round OG is going to pan out, is just that: a gamble. So at this point it is just speculation whether or not Boling will fill the hole or even start this year. Supposedly Alexander has said that Livings deserves to start at that spot - which I don't get. I will feel a lot better if Marvin actually steps up and gets a solid LG in free agency to allow Boling to develop behind Williams. As you said, Collins is sufficient, but to have a dominate OL like we had in 2005, you need guys that are better than "efficient". Had they moved down to select Oher instead of Smith at RT, and grabbed a top notch C (like a Pouncey) or Guard (like an Iupati) a couple of seasons ago instead of grabbing skill positions, I would have a different opinion about Dalton since our OL would be on the verge of being one of the most dominate in the NFL again. We now need to wait another year to significantly improve the OL.

This Boling kid can play. I think they took him because he played all over the line at Georgia, and that kind of guy can save a lot of money. Like Whit his first few years.

I think he'll be starting before the next season ends and be a bright spot.

I really want to see Joseph stay. I don't think he's elite, but definitely top third for corners. it just gets old when they do draft a guy that they need that should be here from 10-12 years and having to replace him after his rookie contract. (Steinbach, M. Williams) I wasn't a big Madieu fan but his contract wasn't that big in Minnesota and it's certainly better than having to call in Ratliffe every year because you are so shorthanded.

The two corners should be solid for 4-5 more years which should allow them to address other spots. Like safety. Christ have they ever addressed safety? They finally addressed tight end. I would hate to see a scenario where Joseph leaves and they play pacman and draft a corner next year. I'd rather draft an o lineman, or a safety.

They play in a division where Reed, and Polamalu win games. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Constantly replacing players is a problem that has never allowed this team to make a run.

As Hob pointed out in one of his inane posts, they couldn't start Mathis over Livings because they had him at backup center in case Cook got hurt. Which makes all the nonsense in the world.

I'm kind of past the point of caring about the Bengals but at the same time I would still probably not be able to stop myself from throwing a rock at Mike Brown if I ever saw him.

Every year in the draft they are chasing positions to fill. They have no plan other than manage the salary cap to allow to allow for maximum profit with the least amount of work.

They bengals have shown many times to reach for players and or their position while passing on capable available players to fill or back up positions needed right now.

Jerome Simpson is a great example. It takes a player like him so long to begin to contribute and this is a luxury that only a few teams who know what they are doing can tolerate and those teams usually do not draft what if's over what we need.

Every player that comes here wants to be positive but they soon realize that it is what it is. You can show up and collect a check whether you win or lose, mostly lose but, you just have to say you want to win and are working hard to do so, and all is good.

Anyway, enough of the gloom and doom, is everyone excited about the possible players to get into the bengals VIRTUAL hall of fame? Got to love their ability to do things so bad while believing it is so right.

Boomer and his comments against MFB forever! MFB NEVER!

@kotw65: Jerome Simpson has still done almost nothing. I don't know why if a guy has two or three good games Bengals fans suddenly think they've found the future answer... I bet even David Verser or certainly Peter Warrick had good games and they weren't the answer to any trivia question except "I'll take Bengals Draft Busts for 800, Alex"

The Bengals stink because their scouting and coaching is not up to par; because the owner is a cheap SOB and he's running football operations except he has no clue about how to run a team that could win the Super Bowl.

Andy Dalton will be thrown to the wolves. As the author rightly points out he's going to be running for his life most plays.

Excuse me for the words "begin to contribute" instead of "actually get on the field during a game" Either way the opinion stated was not of a fan stating happiness of a certain players ability to contribute, it was stated as a few teams have the luxury to take such chances on players and the ones that can usually do not. They pick what is needed not what they hope for over X amount of years. Smiley face....

"Constantly replacing players is a problem that has never allowed this team to make a run."

"The Bengals stink because their scouting and coaching is not up to par; because the owner is a cheap SOB and he's running football operations except he has no clue about how to run a team."

Between the two of you, you nailed it!

I guess what I'm getting at is that when they do happen to find average to above average players their managerial ineptitude keeps these guys from staying.

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From Dave Rimington (this should be on the front page of WDR)

When Dave Rimington played at Nebraska, he became accustomed to top facilities and a winning standard as an All-American lineman for the Cornhuskers.

Once he joined the Cincinnati Bengals, he got used to a much different brand of football.

The Bengals have been voted the worst organization in professional sports.

"I went from one of the best organizations in college football to probably one of the worst organizations in the NFL," Rimington told "I went from a weight room that was half the size of a football field to a weight room that looked like a junior high weight room, and the strength coach didn't want anybody to lift. ..

"It was ridiculous the stuff we had to go through there. I just had to shake my head. It's like the black hole of professional football. Good players go there and you never hear from them again."

Breaking News: Whines Hard arrested in Georgia at 4:31 am this morning for DUI. I'm predicting now that the Steelers cut that smiling jackass to "prove a point", which conveniently neglects to point out that he's in the downside of his career and it's really not that big of a loss.

Aaaaaannnnnnndddddddd leave it up to Pacman to fuck up a good "Steelers player gets in trouble" weekend.

Thanks, dick.

In other news, Tiger woods is going to have a "sit-down" on announce that he has realized that he is in need of redeeming, and so he has inked a deal with the Bengs

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