Two Promising Developments

Apologies for the lack of posts, but it's hard to get excited about all the non-news stories (Carson leaving - yes or no?  Chad continuing to do PR stunts, etc).  Two recent developments perked my ear, though.

The first is that the Bengals are at least considering building an indoor practice facility.  As Joe Reedy points out, "The Bengals are the northernmost NFL team without an indoor facility; coach Marvin Lewis has made it clear he wants one. Movement on the issue was considered one of the reasons he signed on in January for two more years." 

WDR has covered the lack of an indoor practice facility for some time. Check our old posts here and here.  We have covered the fact that the Bengals, a "professional" football team, force their players to practice in an indoor practice stadium in the winter months leading up to the playoffs, and that an indoor facility helps curb injuries.  And that the team, not the county, would be forced to pay for the construction and maintenence of the facility.   But it is certainly a promising sign that the Bengals are at least sniffing around to assess the possibility of building.  Though, I have my serious doubts that this will ever be built. Likely just going through the motions to satisfy Marvin and placate moronic Bengals fans like us.

Second, I was shocked when MLB was able to seize the Dodgers from owner Frank McCourt, using a vague "Best interest of baseball" clause that gives MLB Commishioner Bud Selig almost universal power over teams to do what he thinks is in the best interest in baseball.  Can we hold out hope for something in football?  

Comments

[Hofbraunow]

FIRST POST; YES! ALL HAIL THE INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY

( I am for it )

( Take that, wch )

[wch]

I think it was also pointed out (in the comments section of the Enquirer)... what the fark does it matter as it has never been even talked about that lack of said facilities is what has kept a player from coming to Cincinnati. No, the only thing that is actually more likely to keep someone away is the endemic bullshit that is this team -- in particular, the front office!

As I've always said, this is a non-starter -- and excuse that someone is to use that has absolutely no frickin' bearing on anything at all. It's a 'bait and switch', 'sleight of hand' situation that means nothing.

To have players come here, it has never been said (I'm not saying that I haven't heard it before... I am saying emphatically that IT HAS NEVER BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION!) that lack of an indoor practice facility has EVER kept a player AWAY! It's just a bullshit excuse -- something to make people look the other way -- a 'divide and conquer' strategy as it were! Right now, they have far more important things to even have the slightest WET DREAM over such a concept. Let's start out with PBS -- the POS? How about a true football Front Office?

But it is certainly a promising sign that the Bengals are at least sniffing around to assess the possibility of building

Just ridiculous.

"WDR has covered the lack of an indoor practice facility for some time." No, Bienemy has bitched about it -- for some time. Might you also put this addendum on this statement: "...but as well, there has been no point nor need to do so because it hasn't got one thing to do -- with anything? Remember, a comment is appropriate when it is complete. I am still waiting for someone to justify an IPF -- here's a hint, there is no justification for it on ANY level. It doesn't make our town a 'playa". It won't bring ANY player to town. As well, it will not be a deciding factor of any player to come play for the Bengals (but, in the event that some actual 'toolbox' did indeed think this, that might be the indication to leave -- RUN away from this person. DON'T EVER LOOK BACK!!!!!! It's about on par with a person not wanting to work for 5/3rd Bank for $100,000+ simply because they aren't stocking their lunch room with authentic Macy's crystal salt shakers!)

"WDR has covered the lack of an indoor practice facility for some time. Check our old posts here and here. We have covered the fact that the Bengals, a "professional" football team, force their players to practice in an indoor practice stadium (SO WHAT? What does that have to do with anything? Can you even come close to equivocating such things as having ANY effect, positive or negative, on player and/or team performance? Generally when such statements are made, the person making the statements give information to support their statement(s). In this case, it is about as useless as saying: "There needs to be graphite fishing poles because.") in the winter months leading up to the playoffs, and that an indoor facility helps curb injuries (Oh really? Care to prove that one? Care to tell me exactly HOW this is the case? Just because YOU said it, doesn't mean that it is true or that there is even ONE SHRED -- one IOTA of evidence to support such a claim. Hence a reason that I am VEHEMENTLY opposed to such things. For something to be brought forth, there certainly needs to be a need -- show me the need?

"But it is certainly a promising sign that the Bengals are at least sniffing around to assess the possibility of building." Really? Why? If you can tell me that someone who could help our team did NOT come to Cincinnati as a player FOR this team BECAUSE there was no IPF, (here's a hint -- you can't -- it has never happened -- mainly because an IPF can be rented when the conditions are needed. If you don't think the costs of such a facility are NOT going to be passed on to you -- you are off the deep end! That's why ticket prices go up -- they have to pay for that bullshit one way or another -- and here's the kicker, it may not costs the Bengals anything, the county has no say (other than raising your taxes of course) but you can bet you still are going to pay for it in terms of a ticket price increase. Again, if it isn't needed, why must people insist that it IS needed? Kinda like what our current administration is doing to its citizenry on a national level huh? In other words, justify it. Show me how it can (not -- it could or MIGHT -- but CAN and does!) be helpful? Don't just say it, PROVE IT! What's that? It can't be proven? Well there's yer answer!

The situation with the LA Dodgers is completely different than that of the Cincinnati Bengals. For one, you don't know what has been signed by MMBBM in regards to the league taking over the team. You don't know if he signed anything KNOWING that it is unenforceable. The other aspect (amongst many) is that the Bengals do indeed have a 'commander' and a money source. The Dodgers did not -- they lost that when the divorce proceedings went forth. Big difference.

You may wish (I am not all that clear on that but I think that that is what you are saying -- correct me if I am wrong), to see the league run the Bengals but in the end, if I am MMBB, you can bet that I would tell Jane Skinner's husband, "You touch my team and I will collapse the whole kit and kaboodle -- so shut the hell up and go worry about the high gloss on your shoes or something." Anti-trust laws are a MUTHA!

Again, it goes back to the vote on the stadium issue. The only way to have gotten MMBB out of town would have been to vote it down. That didn't happen because of a bunch of spoiled brats screaming and crying like 'stuck pigs' -- "Don't take away my team....!" Well, you aren't getting rid of MMBB in any other way (unless it is preceded by his passing). The best that could have been done was for these spoiled children to tell the NFL that they wanted a secured promise that there would be football in Cincinnati in a few years (ala how Cleveland did it when the Browns left to go to Baltimore). However, I really think that a great many people knew that the NFL would have flipped this city to proverbial "BIRD" and that would have been that -- we would have been taking a two-hour road trip to Indy instead. Basically the reason for this is that Cincinnati is a shit-hole (comparably speaking) a 4th or 5th rate town at best and its geographic location didn't mean shit -- the NFL would have been happy for Cincinnati to leave, dissolve or whatever!

Ya lost your chance some time ago and now you have the temerity to bitch about it? That's CHUTZPAH!

Oh, and while I am at it, if Hofbraunow is so tickled so enamoured that he got the first post? That should tell ya something!

Hof, just remember, YOU are going to pay (taxes/tickets or both) for something that has NO value nor can NEVER be proven to have ANY effect whatsoever towards making the Cincinnati Bengals a better team. Not only are you advocating this -- but you are orgasming over it. You should be so proud!

[wchisthemouthontheothersideofgloryholes]

Worst.forum.post.ever. Congratulations, wch. I read a whole two sentences.

[MikeBrownGreedyClown]

The latter item is the only good news. It would be great if the NFL seized the Bengals from the clutches of Mr Magoo.

[Hofbraunow]

Yes. Yes it was. The worst ever. I started to read it, then face-palmed when I realized I'd been "wch'd" into reading that far...

Then, I skipped the rest, somehow read the end: confirmed, worst ever.

'Chutzpah', what is that, a brand of pretzel?

I would like some chutney with my chutzpah (and beer), in the form of an INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY!!! COMPLETE WITH BENGALS PLAYERS, PRACTICING INDOORS!!! YEE HAW, WCH YOU YUTZ!!!

(suddenly I am someone who was raised on Izzy's Corned Beef deli sandwiches)

[Hofbraunow]

wch is giving me the 'what-for' on paying taxes for an indoor practice facility:

wch (pokes Hof in the chest, and uses his Mayberry voice): You sir, are a *pork-barrelist* !!!

Hof: so be it, sing it like Glenn Cripe!!!

The lockout sucks for draft season!!!

Now all, pinch your noses and sing with your
best INDOOR techno-voice:

Stop
The Lock
Can't-Stop The-Lock-I-Said
Stop
The Lock
Can't-Stop The-Lock
Stop
The Lock
(ad infinitauseum)

[Hofbraunow]

Oh yes.

Yes I do.

I have the technology.

I have the *temerity*

(Not to mention the tamarinds;
they have them at Jungle Jim's, I'm sure).

Thank you vary mooch.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.
It will be indoors.
Indoors, in a PRACTICE FACILITY,
in a NORTHERNMOST LOCATION!!!

VIVA WDR

[TigerJ@w]

what is your problem, wch? you tell people to quit bitchin about things like of the indoor practice facility and then you have the gull with your ad nauseam in saying the same BS over and over again about people losing out on voting MFB out of town. Your soap box rants are redundant and basically nothing more than pot meet kettle posts! Everyone knows they could have sent MFB packing. People thought the man was going to change so they gave him a shot. They bought into his brainwashing ways, but not anymore. Can you simply understand this? I do not think you can comprehend this simple thing. BTW, never call my hometown a shit hole you asshole! Your type love to hide behind your keyboard, but if you were ever in someone's face you would never say a thing and just run and hide like the COWARD I know you are!

[whymikeywhy]

TigerJ@w:

Not only that, but he also keeps ignoring the fact that a lot of people reading this site weren't even old enough to vote on the stadium deal at the time or didn't live in Hamilton county. He's been told this a kajillion times, but there he goes again saying "Ya lost your chance some time ago." Nope, sorry, I didn't "lose" my chance to vote on it because I never had it in the first place.

Or he's just a troll. Or both.

[JM]

The idea that Bengals fans financially support the team (used to anyway) and are not Hamilton county taxpayers, or voters is just too simple a concept for our dear friend WCH.

He's right though. The lack of an indoor practice facility has never kept one player from deciding to come to the bengals. The fact that they don't sign free agents of impact or significance keeps players from coming to Cincinnati.

It's a business move to not build a indoor practice facility. Why pay for something that may help you have success late in an NFL season? MFB's record is pretty good late in seasons.............. when mathematical elimination has already occurred.

Why spend "Brown family wealth" on something that may help you win in the playoffs? Mikes only been to the playoffs twice in 20 years.

In light of his business model, it's just not a good investment.

The NFL owners would never allow the takeover of a bad team. To field a 12 win team there have to be bad teams to support the wins. Put it another way, why would the Steelers allow the NFL to take over the Bengals? That's two wins a year for Pittsburgh.

Mike doesn't mind being the guy in the gay porno taking pipe and not giving pipe, so long as he makes just as much money.

[Wyatt]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/04/22/bucs/index.html

Just turning things away from wch's repetitively inane argument, but did anybody see this? Anyone think the Bengals could ever pull this off? Remember when Andre Smith/Rey Maualuga/Michael Johnson was considered a draft haul (mainly for the second and third rounders).

[bungalfamily]

mark dominik would make my short list of GMs for my bizarro mike-brown-decides-bengals-should-win-football-games-fantasy dreamworld.

[bungalfamily]

"If I could steal (Packers general manager) Ted Thompson's words, you've got to put three or maybe even four draft classes together to really get the team you want to be at this level."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/04/22/bucs/index.html#ixzz1Ket1QxXT

In Cincy we would throw a parade for three or maybe four good picks in one class. I guess Mikey is working on the fairly good plan of 6 classes, or 7, or...I'm sure they'll get it together soon.

[PaulBrownsBastardSon]

Mikey's only plan is to make money and pay himself bonuses.

[formerly342 willy]

so i went to the official bengals facebook webpage and i posted a link to this website
now i cannot post anything or comment on their page at all i posted to cincy jungles facebook page a similar link pleading for ppl to go and post this link on the bengals official facebook page and now i cannot post or comment on anything on that page either
oh well looks like this is my ONLY source for bengals info

[PaulBrownsBastardSon]

@formerly342willy

of course they're going to want to censor you.
nobody is allowed to pierce Mikey Boy's bubble of delusionality and profit$

does anyone even give a shiite about the draft? I used to care back in the days before Mikey came along and there was at least a slim chance of the Bungles not sucking.

[Marc]

There are a couple sad things I think of reading this post...one, yes, it is very sad, I don't even get excited about Bengals drafts anymore. Even if there were no lockout this year, the only thing we'd be doing is pontificating on who/what/how Mikey Boy would be fucking up with in this draft. The Carson situation would be another debacle we'd all be watching Mikey F up, seeing him fail to operate like a REAL NFL team....(making a trade instead of letting CP retire).

The other sad thing is douche bag, uh I mean wch. As I read this post I knew that turd would show up staining the bowl, only this page is the bowl and his turd comment is the streak! I can just envision this POS typing up his comment on MS Word and getting excited as he copies & pastes it into the comment section.

Can't you guys block his IP or delete his comments? I mean I'm the fist guy to support free speech and giving everyone a say, but this is getting sick. Just get rid of his nonsense.