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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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September 29, 2010


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I agree with every comparison here and even the conclusion that the Reds deserve their fan support more than the Bengals deserve theirs. But it's not that simple. I'm happy the Reds are doing well, but I just hate baseball. I can't stand to watch it. It's never appealed to me, so I'll never go spend my money on it. But I love football, and while I'll also never spend my money on Mike Brown, you get what I'm saying.

I wish it were as easy as just pumping more passion into the other hometown team, but it's apples and oranges. For a guy like me, the Reds are irrelevant and the Bengals are all I've got.

Congrats to the Reds on winning the division, it has been fun to watch my original team on TV again after all those dark years. After I relocated to Chicago, I began following the Cubs more than the Reds since Jim Bowden just ran them into the ground. Now I live in DC and the Nats are having to recover from all of the shitty decisions Bowden made when they started up the team- it is going to take years for the Nats to recover.

The thing the Reds will need to be careful with is Dusty Baker. I liked Dusty in Chicago, but he single handily destroyed the pitching staff that the Cubs had by over-pitching Prior and Wood during his tenure.

I hope the Reds organization stays with their successful formula that they seem to have put in place. It is amazing how simple it can be, if you have a really good foundation and principles in place for the organization.

As much as I want the Bengals to succeed it will always be an uphill struggle since they have so many obstacles in place to hinder their performance: tight-fisted owner who meddles in decision making and tends to overstep his authority; non-professional organization (firing players in the hallway); sub-par medical staff; poor scouting; and members of the organization are not held accountable for their performance.

Dusty Baker is only a shade less infuriating than Bratkowski.

I'm with Mockenrue. I don't hate baseball per say, but it is FAR less interesting and attention holding than football. I DO spend some money every year going to a few games, and will continue to do so, but it's a social event as much as anything else for me. I also have refused to put dimes in Mikey's pocket for four years, and that won't change either, until he does. That said, I won't be paying any extra attention (or money) to the reds because they've achieved mild success (so far).
Lastly, and it's the wrong thread, but I don't care, I'm lazy. I'm just about at the point Bienemy is. There's only so much energy and time I can throw into a team/org. that doesn't give two shits about winning or my happiness as a fan. I see bad things on the horizon based on what's transpired so far, despite another well written response/retort by tide urging to hold on. I see an offense with NO coordination (not just up in the booth, but yes, up in the booth too), an O line that blows and management that refuses to make what should be pretty god damned obvious changes that would, beyond a shadow of a doubt, improve the performance; and I see a QB that I can't be an apologist for anymore. I stopped doing it for Mickey at UC after last year (teams that can't inbound the ball properly to secure a win aren't coached well), and I just can't do it for Carson anymore. I hope desperately that I'm wrong, but my blood lust for watching the bengals beat other teams has been steamrolled by an extremely disjointed and inept offense, and the subsequent excuses made by management (give me a break Marvin, the O was awful on Sunday and the best you have is the smart ass remark about having to apologize for winning?) You're lucky to have a Zimmer D. Since I'm rambling (it's therapeutic as much as anything else, so I apologize) I wrote last year, that I hoped the perceived idiocy of Brat and the terrible decision amde on O were part of some grand brilliant scheme to not show other teams what we wanted to do, and I can't even hold on to that any longer. 4-1 at the break if we're lucky, yay. I see 2-11 afterwards.....

Sorry, 2-9, idiot...

those videos are fucking awesome

Completely agree. It's nice to see one of those videos taking place in Cincinnati.

Dang, Jay Bruce hit that right up Center Field, and then he put his finger up like he was John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever

I guess it's to be expected from the boards of a football blog, but to read such indifferent and, at times, outright hostile comments about the reds on here is beyond pathetic. I just assumed that for the people on these boards who were from cincy, how could you not have had a smile on your face yesterday?

Perhaps it's an issue of age. I'm not that old, but old enough to have been a kid who was dazzled by dibble and the nasty boys in '90 and remember with vivid detail benzinger drifting back up the first base foul line to sweep those punk ass a's.

I guess, to borrow a kind of decent phrase from someone else on here, for the mental midget mindset that often seems to be younger, more tattooed, less employed, drunker and fatter from being drunker, mildly illiterate, less involved with people of the opposite sex for anything other that passing the herp, then maybe i can see how baseball's just not for you. you hate it as baboons hate mirrors - just can't figure it out. i feel sad for you. you've got bullshit fathers and weak childhood friends.

again maybe it's a generational thing. you're xboxed, psp'd, mma'd and all-around acronymed addled brains just can't help themselves. with that kind of casual attention span, maybe you should stick to a sport that's only on 16 (and rarely for us - 17) days a year. it has a definite time limit with flashy lights and big noises. mockenrue like when fat man fall on small man!!! he look like when pa wants special time with ma. OHHHH, lookey, lookey, look at all the yellow blankets on the green forest. mockenrue LOVES yellow!!! it reminds him of his pee-bob and so do! NAP TIME!!!

and what kind of disloyal, gun-for-hire are you blesterov?!? aren't you supposed to be the few, the proud or something? or is that guttersnake? whatever. you deserve no credit for comments where you openly jump ship and lie with the enemy because you move and your home team isn't winning? (by the way, you might want to recalibrate your ability to pick a winner if you're flip-flopping your loyalty for the reds to the fucking cubs and nats - most frontrunners choose new squads that have at least one something since the roosevelt administration (the first roosevelt). i see your type of ass clown fudge packing up the bars when i'm trying to find a bengals game on. over-eager ball coddling butt buddies trying desperately to watch every game on even the tiniest screens, bragging about their "keeper" leagues and desperately trying to distract attention away from your receding hairline by drinking enough beer to accommodate your proceeding gut line. for christ fucking sake. when you move, you can still follow your squad! 700wlw will pick up on your car radio after 8pm practically anywhere east of the mississippi which includes boystown and dupont circle. and the excuse that they were losing should revoke your rights to be on THIS site ever again.

pathetic. pathetic on all counts.

swb is spot on with this little piece. despite the infuriating structure of mlb, the reds and their new owners have done what was necessary to change their m.o. and in less than 5 years, they've put together a winning formula to compete on excruciatingly uneven playing field. the bengals' ownership gobbles mediocrity like revenue sharing (and cock). yet for the most part, people can't bother themselves to go down to a reds' game on a nice summer night or weekend afternoon to watch a winner but they'll liquor up in a wintry mix to pump up the flotation device around jim lippencott's waistline despite no real change in on-field production for the bengals in, let's see, DECADES.

at the end of the day - casual fans, video games, fantasy leagues, cell phone apps, texting and data plans, youth soccer leagues, espn 4, 5, 2, niner...and big fucking pussies are responsible for the snowballing you chaps are peddling above . just keep passing that money shot back and forth to each other mockenrue, blesterov, and your other friends of dorthy...and be sure to invite your fathers...because they've sucked man-ass their whole life too for not teaching you to respect and appreciate anything of least it would be an activity you could share together.

@and this one belongs to the reds:

I'm not sure what you're going for here, guy. On one hand, you flout your age and supposed sophistication (as evidenced by the fact that you can watch baseball whereas the rest of us peons apparently can't), but on the other hand, you resort to childish name-calling and liberal profanity. I enjoy name-calling and profanity as much as the next guy; however, if you're trying to make a point about how high-minded you are, it's probably not the best idea.

I was 10 years old when the Reds last won a World Series, and I LIVED baseball. I played football in the fall and wrestled in the winter, but from mid-March through September, my life was baseball. Growing up outside Pittsburgh, we always made sure to schedule our trips to Three Rivers for when the Reds were in town, and I always remember the thrill of leaving the stadium after a Reds win, no matter how negative the Pirates fans were (and, to their defense, Pirates fans are far less assholish than their football-following brethren). I've lived in a lot of places over the last decade, but the Reds have always been my team.

With that said, even when I was in full-on baseball mode, I hated watching baseball on television - HATED IT. There just seemed like more important things I could be doing than plopping in front of a television and watching baseball (especially in the summertime, when I could be outside playing baseball with my neighbors). And then when high school rolled around and I had my first significant growth spurt, football became a much bigger part of my life, and, while I continued to play baseball, football eventually supplanted it as my sport of choice. That made it even harder to *watch* baseball, and in spite of how awful the Bengals were (somewhere around 1994 or 1995 - the fairly early stages of the Mike Brown Dark Ages), I had no problems dedicating three hours to watching them play (I think part of it was because it was such a rare treat to watch the Bengals play, living roughly halfway between Pittsburgh and Cleveland and only having television stations from Pittsburgh and Youngstown, Ohio).

While I'm thrilled that the Reds are finally back in the postseason, I'm still more excited to watch the Bengals (even though there's a much greater chance that they will suck). I'll watch as much Reds playoff baseball as I can, but I get up for work at 4:45 am every morning, so staying up to watch a complete game just isn't a responsible decision on my part, especially since I'm responsible for the health and safety of the entire 13-person crew at my job site.

Lump me in with blesterov and mockenrue all you like, but I'm more of a football fan, and I say that with no disrespect meant towards the Redlegs. And, as you pointed out, this IS a football blog, after all.

@and this one belongs to the Reds - let's make this clear: anyone who is a Bengals fan should rarely, if ever, be questioned for front-running, bandwagon jumping or opportunism. The Bengals are the worst fucking organization in pro sports and rooting for them is pain with no hope of pleasure. It is the definition of blind fan loyalty beyond all rational thought.

So easy there fella, some folks just like football better. And you're probably more likely to find those types of people visiting this website.

Go Reds and Who Dey.

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