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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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July 22, 2010


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Totally agree... it starts with Marvin, Carson and Zimmer. Beyond that there is a strong outer nucleus (sp?) that is also incredibly important... guys like Whit, JJ, Leon, etc.

It was very encouraging to read Marvin's interview quotes this week... to me it feels like he really does want to come back and stay with the team. I'm now more optimisitic this will happen. Marvin is the man... he has done more than anyone since MB took control of the franchise decades ago to really turn this thing around. He's one guy MB actually listens to. As you said, "the absence of Marvin Lewis to run the Bengals like a real organization" would be an incredible blow that would be difficult to recover from, especially given the fact that we have not yet asserted ourselves as a year in year out legitimate contentder. We are in (hopefully) still in the process of that tranformation. I hope Marvin stays around for many more years to see that through. He is on the revolutions side- that I do not doubt. The man's legacay is already strong in my book, but taking the next step over another 5,6,7+ years, taking it to a SB title, that would put him into an elite class in NFL history because, simply put, this team was nowhere at all before he got here.

Come on Bengals let's get Marvin signed.

/End Rant

There is no doubt that Ed Reed is a key component to the Ravens' defense. His talent allows the rest of the secondary, and I think to some extent the inside LBs, to take chances and "cheat" the coverages.

Teams can't stockpile key players like Reed. There aren't that many of them, and they cost too much. But they leave a big hole when they miss games. And there is now likely to be a huge hole in the already weak Ravens secondary. Advantage, Bengals.
WhatIfSports predicts the Ravens to go 12-4 and the Bengals to go 9-7. So they are pretty jazzed about the Ravens' offense and not so much for the Bengals' offense.

I get tired of power rankings being based on the previous year's finish, when that is too simple of a formula. Most rankings last year had the Bengals at closer to 6-10, not 10-6. The talking heads last year were picking the Titans to go to the SuperBowl, but they opened up 0-6.

I think an honest assessment of the Bengals and Ravens has them pretty evenly matched. The Ravens have an advantage on offense, although not as big as the talking heads seem to believe. The Bengals have a slight advantage on defense... well, a decent advantage with Reed out. And the Ravens just gave a contract to the Bengals' biggest liability on special teams.

I say the Ravens and Bengals likely split this year. Although with Carson's track record of success playing in Baltimore, the Bengals could sweep them again. Division winner is hard to call at this point.

Houses and cars are quite expensive and not everyone is able to buy it. But, home loans was invented to aid different people in such cases.

Oh I agree completely. I had no faith in Crazy Legs and I have no faith in JTO Speedwagon this season. That worries me a little with our RB situation, but Scott and Leonard have proven their abilities to some extent. Depth issues seem to bode worse for the Ravens and Steelers than us I hope. Especially our defense (line and secondary especially). Offense not so much but hopefully with the army of WRs, the decent RBs and Kelly and Gresham we'll be ok. I saw an article that picked us for a deep playoff run as long as we stay healthy (which is a cop out, every team SHOULD be able to do well if they stay healthy but I digress.)

Also, found this on CincyJungle and really? 28th in ALL OF SPORTS? Ridiculous. Also, note the numbers. $953 million value, $222 million revenue but the brand value is $57 million.

National Perception (fan's) of Marv is quite contrasting to what we (most of us) feel here. Hard to see from the outside what exactly he was up against when he started in 2003. He has been nothing short of a miracle worker thus far. Anything less than a new multi year deal from him after the season will be consisdered a disaster from my perspective. Unfortunately, I don't feel that Mike will be willing to give the guy his due, even though he has more than earned it. Enjoy the ride this year, at least it should be a good cap to his tenure.

It would be very consistent of Mike Brown

to make a pitch

for Shaquille O'Neal...

...because when he heard that 'depth' was needed,
he figured density would be close enough

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Can it get any

You are correct to a point. Depth cannot replace someone like a Reed, Polomalu, or Palmer. You loose the game changing abilities that star players bring to their respective squads. Game changers are few and far between so replacing them with a player from the bench is a huge drop in ability. To make up for the loss either the coordinator's scheme changes to protect the hole, or they just try to keep on trucking without him, hoping that the opposing teams don't find a way to take advantage of the weak spot.

However, depth is very important when you are talking about the non-star positions like our starting safeties that went down last year (neither starter is a game changer yet the replacements were very poor and the Jets took advantage- Lewis upgraded this position this year), have a dependable nickel and dime CB (something we have not had for years until now with Jones & Trent), DL & LB depth so you can substitute players in different game situations to help keep starters fresh. I like the depth this team has right now on paper in the secondary, DL, LB (now that M. Johnson has officially moved to SLB), OL, TE, and RB. The WR corps were upgraded with talent, but they are very young right now so it hard to say they will be better on day one since there will be a learning curve for Shipley (who is our #3 right now).

Side note: I still see them getting TO. I think it makes a lot of sense, and I was not surprised to read that Palmer has been pushing for him to be signed. If Bryant is still hurt we are relying on Caldwell or Simpson to become the #2. I would feel better if we had TO as insurance and a proven veteran starting in the slot rather than rely on a rookie.

With Reed gone in week 2, I think we have a good chance to start the season 2-0 and one game ahead of our division rivals. This should be another fun year, unless 2006 repeats and the core units of the team gets decimated with injuries again.

Payne, I think you are right about the power rankings. The media is lazy and doesn't do their homework on what teams are doing that really count. Here in Cincy for years according to the media, we sucked b/c we didn't have a franchise QB, star WR, or every down RB. Nope, we sucked b/c we had no OL w/out a dependable Center in front of them to protect the QB or open running lanes. I bought a fantasy mag this year to catch up on what teams did to prep for my league draft- complete waste of money. Not one mention of the team's OL strength when they ranked RB's. Forte is magically going to bounce back from his "sophomore slump" this year all on his own even though his center is getting blown back into the backfield on a regular basis. I was really surprised that the Steelers had better odds in Vegas then the Bengals to win the AFC North and Championship. I wish I could short the Steelers somehow b/c I am willing to bet they end up third or forth in the division.

Something tells me that the Bengals are a more mature team since you don't hear all of the talk like we heard before the 2006 season. I think they should have a chip on their shoulders again since they are getting mocked in the media as a fluke, and I bet Marvin can use it to their advantage.

"Houses and cars are quite expensive and not everyone is able to buy it. But, home loans was invented to aid different people in such cases.

Posted by: Miranda29Alana | July 22, 2010 at 04:27 PM"

Well alright,
it's just a G****mn free-for-all ain't it

Just thinking. Is it wrong of me to just be happy with a playoff win this year. Everyone keeps telling me since we are signing T.O. we are going to be contenders this year to win the Super Bowl. I am a loyal Bengals fan but over the years of being beat down has took a toll on me. I still have this gut feeling it will be a year of broken dreams.

It is alot of mirrors and black smoke...

Hope I don't get my ass chewed for saying this.


I don't think anyone's going to chew your ass - most of us are so jaded that our predictions for the season and the depth of the Bengals' playoff runs are prefaced with "until they revert to the Bengals of old" or "until Mike Brown finds a way to screw things up". Essentially, I think we find new ways to keep our hopes and expectations low, so that when the Bengals exceed them (like last year), it's a wonderful thing. Even so, in spite of what passes for a storybook season in Bengaldom, I don't think anyone (outside of the eternally optimistic blester) really expected the Bengals to win against the Jets in the Wild Card round last year. We talked ourselves out of their potential to win the game as a coping mechanism. I'm not sure how old you are or how long you've been a Bengals fan, but I'm 30, and while I was in a Bengals onesie for their first trip to the Super Bowl in the 80s, I remember being captivated by their second trip. I started watching football with a Bengals team that was at least competitive, and then had to suffer through the "lost" two decades when Mikey Boy took control of the team. Expecting the worst while still finding the ability to enjoy things like a sweep of the AFC North and a playoff berth are a hallmark of long-suffering Bengals fans, so fear not, for you are not alone.

Mike Brown on potentially signing TO: "And I do trust my own eyes on this sort of thing."



I hope this is not a lot of broken dreams this year. The only way I see that happening is if we have a repeat of 2006 & 4/5 of the OL gets injured, 4/6 of the LB unit goes down and we loose other key players.

This is the best Bengals team on paper I have seen in a long time.

@ Wyatt

I see what you mean. I am 33 years old and have pretty much the same story as you. Grew up in the greater Cincinnati area all my life. Now in the military for 15 years. So when ever I get home I go to a game. The Bengals and the Reds I love. I think we as fans enjoy the little things. I think we were raised that way in the Mid-West. Win or lose the Bengals and the Reds are our teams we grew up to love. I go to a game not because I know the Bengals are going to win but go to a game because of the atmosphere. Good people enjoying the sports we love. It is the fans and people of Cincinnati that make our teams great.

@ blesterov

I agree this is the best Bengals team that has been put together. I am scared that with all these veterans being signed especially at WR it is going to hurt the future of the Bengals. Reds did the same thing until really last year. Young players are the future. Look at the Reds now. What happens to all the young WR's if we sign T.O. and play Bryant, Matt Jones, ect...

By the way got my tickets for the Bengals and Bills game in November. Do not worry Revolution I did not buy They were giving to me because I am in the military.

I always think that we have more knowledge,but less judgment; we have more medicines,but less health, why?

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