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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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April 26, 2010


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A developmental QB? Like Jevon Snead in the 7th round instead of an offensive lineman that could barely play at Iowa State and maybe won't make the practice squad. I don't get keeping Jordan around. Cut his ass an put him on the practice squad the 48k per year would be a gift, develope somebody who may actually play a role in 3 years.

Your comments on the draft mirror my thoughts...a fourth or fifth round QB to develop and a drafted safety would have been nice. Other than that, no objections. Unless Mikey's crack VCR (or is it Beta?) team saw something in the draft prospect safeties that made them say "aw, *#*@ it, we can get just as good a CFA for cheap......"

I wouldn't have gone with Gresham in the first round either. But if he can frustrate the Ravens and Steelers as much as Heap and Miller have frustrated me over the years, I'll take it.

Dunlap concerns me a bit, but at least he is going to have to be accountable to Zimmer. The Bengals ought to hire someone to babysit him for his first year, like they should have done with Chris Henry.

Screw this crap that Ghee is here to replace JJoe WHEN he leaves. A good CB is worth the money. I'm sure the rest of the NFL knows as well as we do that MFB won't give him a big contract, and half a dozen teams are budgeting to sign him. I HATE YOU MIKE BROWN!!

LOVE the Shipley pick!! Colt McCoy will curse his name for as long as he is employed by the Browns.

Otis Hudson??? WTF??? There were no better safeties at this point? Really? I mean really?

I would have liked to Safety taken at some point but in zimmer we trust.

----Screw this crap that Ghee is here to replace JJoe WHEN he leaves. A good CB is worth the money. I'm sure the rest of the NFL knows as well as we do that MFB won't give him a big contract, and half a dozen teams are budgeting to sign him. I HATE YOU MIKE BROWN!!-----

Yup you have the best tandem in the NFL and your going split it apart because you don't wanna pay em? What haPpend to taking care of your own Mr Brown?I like the ghee pick but at depth stand point they need Extend Jjoe asap then if they can't extend Hall(who I'd prefer out of the 2) then they can franchise him the 3rd year and have both of their service for atleast 3 more years...

PS,Seriously who else are we going to spend our cap on...the longer they wait the more $$$$ it is going to be to extend Jjoe and hall

Developmental QB??? Really? Last time I checked, the Franchise is only 30 years old, which translates into prime time for a QB. How old is Brett Farve? Not saying he has to play that long, but he's got at least 7-8 more good years left if not more. And his best is still ahead. If we make it to the superbowl, it will be on Carson's shoulders, and he's still got a long time left to play. I'd rather draft positions that will be valuable now.

We are deeper at safety than anyone is giving us credit for. Chin is servicable and Ratliff I think is actually really good as a safety. Would a 5th round draft pick be better than either of these guys this year? I'll answer for you. No.

jose, practice squad player make upwards of 90 grand per year. That aside, i concur, don't think the younger Palmer is ever going to see a snap. Fifth round is my only real objection of the draft, should have taken DB help, whether it was SS or FS. I don't see Nelson becoming a starter ever, and Nedu is ok, not great, so when and if Roy and Chris get nicked or worse, our options are pretty limited and granted, a rookie safety wouldn't do much, but it would at least provide some much needed depth, oh well, I'll take what I got for sure. I love run ons!

Who has read that Ghee is going to replace Joseph? The dude has yet to put on his helmet in an NFL game, and he is going to replace Joseph? I can't believe that speculation BS...

Ghee is here to upgrade the nickel and dime spots; it is as simple as that. We play a significant number of 4 WR teams this year and we need quality depth at CB to shut them down. Also if we are going to make it to the playoffs again, you need to be able to match up to Indy and the Pats. We haven't had a deep secondary since 1988, but I think we may see that begin to change this year.

Do you think we should sign Ciron Black as a rookie FA? Dude was a stud at LSU. 6-5, 330lbs and athletic. Was projected as high as a late 1st rounder, but seems he fell out of shape. Seems like good depth to me.

"“I wasn’t a great player. I had to drive myself and do it other ways,” said (John) Thornton, a second-round pick of the Titans."


HobSpin Early Warning System Alert: Ken Hamlin as a Bengal isn't gonna happen.

HS EWS quote: "...they aren’t looking to pay much more than $1 million and Hamlin, at least, has just been cut from a big-money deal in Dallas."

Major Payne --

Why should they pay more than that for a safety? They're looking for a serviceable backup that can come in and play decently if injury strikes--not a true starter. I'd rather have Hamlin too, but it may not make total sense.

I'm not saying that I'm going to be pissed if the Bengals don't pick up Hamlin. I'm saying that with a statement like that, Hob is tipping the hand that it isn't going to happen.

Hamlin or not, I'd prefer to see the Bengals pick up the best safety they can -- even if it is only on a one-year deal so any future cap isn't an issue -- because I would rather not hand over the backfield to a "serviceable backup" if Williams or Crocker go down again.

The thing is, we don't need another veteran who's long in the tooth at safety (or offensive guard for that matter). We need a young guy we can groom to replace Roy in a year or two.

I'm a bit miffed, because you guys are probably right about the safety position. ...which by no means is a bad thing on the collective WDR. The reason I hate to say this is that by this admittance, the draft was even more smartly (not perfect, mind you... just smartly) played than I originally thought.

I really liked what was started a month or so ago about the position break-down. He's comrade 'snake's two-cents on each.

QB - Solid. Not worried.
RB - Money.
WR - Do you think we have enough now?!
TE - Love it.
OT/G - If good, we're back. The only question mark.

DT/E - Jesus. Somebody tell the other team's QB not to eat before the game... we're bringing a sack lunch for him.
LB - See above.
CB - Joseph and Hall are Billy and Jimmy Lee from Double Dragon. I read it on Wikipidea.
S - You guys are right. Though it is still probably our biggest need, I think we are okay.
K - Meet our achillies heel.

Sweet Double Dragon reference! Remind me of that in four months when I write some nasty response to one of your posts with some political garbage included. Also, agree with the position assessments with the possible exception of safety, i don't know that we are ok as of yet, Crocker, Williams, Ndukwe and Nelson do not a good group of Centerfielders make. Lots to be desired there still. Luckily, as you so aptly pointed out, our starting corners are freaking beasts, so with a bit of DB luck, poor ball skills in centerfield shoudn't be too big a deal.


I think your assessment is dead on except for the LB's- we don't have a LB that can cover a TE. Hopefully the guy we added in the draft brings that ability.

In hindsight, I like what they did in the draft on the defensive side of the ball. The fact that they brought in additional talent to provide quality depth at the position that allows Zimmer to make different personnel packages depending on the situations is a great move. This not only allows the starters to take a break, but it also allows the rookies to learn the pro game this year and develop them for the 2011 year. This is smart b/c the quality of the pass rush helps the corners and safeties. So if are safeties were rated a 6; a good pass rush adds a point to make them a 7. Next year they could throw in a rookie at safety and you are not going to miss a beat. In summary, it makes sense that they ignored the safety spot this year.

I can see them putting various combinations of Tank, Peko, Adkins, Dunlap, Odom, Geathers, Johnson, & Fanene on the line in different passing situations. I can also see Zimmer moving M. Johnson to SLB in some packages so they can match him up with a RB in the pass protection if they send him (I think he tried this a couple of times last year).

My only complaint was that I thought if they made the right moves they could be legit contenders in 2010. I think the moves they made pushes it back a year, but I can live with it. Next year they have to address Guard, Safety, and hit the WR well again to groom a replacement for Chad.

@ blester

My thoughts exactly.

Have a name suggestion? The contest officially starts now and ends the morning of April 26th, 2010 (that means you have one week to think).

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