Gotta protect Carson. Bobbie Williams please.
Free agency ain't over, folks. I don't expect big splashes but it's an uncapped year. Solidify the roster where you can, and for the love of good, keep around your solid veterans like Bobbie.
IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;
Introduction
WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:
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THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”
THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;
THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;
THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;
THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;
THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”
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20 - Years since the Bengals have won a playoff game
0 - Total number of playoff wins in Mike Brown's tenure as owner
.359 - Bengals regular season winning percentage since Mike Brown took over as owner (115-206-1 in 20 seasons)
29-34-1 - Record since 2005 playoff game vs Steelers
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10 - Players arrested in a 14 month span from 2005-2006
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AGREED. I'd like to bring Roy back as well, but Bobbie should be the #1 priority.
We also need to draft line again, just build up the depth chart there. We had surprisingly few line injuries last year and we weren't that deep. I could see taking OL in round 1 if he's a strong value there.
Posted by: AFCNORTHCHAMPS | March 11, 2010 at 01:10 PM
Bobbie don't go.
Posted by: G | March 11, 2010 at 05:40 PM
Hm. Hadn't thought of drafting an OT in the first round or two, but you bring up a good point. Not sure if I agree with that much, but a third rounder? Free Agent? The position should be looked at, though I'd start with a Guard.
Posted by: guttersnake | March 11, 2010 at 06:16 PM
I agree the Bengals need to resign their strong players. Use your draft to put depth on your OL or Defense. Look at the later rounds of the draft to pick up a TE.
I do not think the Bengals can put a super bowl team together this year but sign players for a few years not just one year so in a couple of years the Bengals could be a contender.
Posted by: Michael | March 12, 2010 at 04:01 AM
Bengals signed Chris Davis (WHO???) from the Titans. You've probably heard of him b/c of a DUI arrest right before the Titans waived him. He has a career staggering 6 catches for 69 yards. Watch out now! lol
Posted by: BengalsDouche | March 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Davis is just training camp depth. A tackling dummy.
Posted by: blester01 | March 12, 2010 at 12:50 PM
The Bengals on Friday signed free agent wide receiver Chris Davis, a third-year NFL player from Florida State.
Davis (5-10, 181) was a fourth-round Tennessee draft choice in 2007, and in two seasons (2007-08) with the Titans, he played in 17 games plus two postseason games as a receiver and kick returner. He averaged 9.1 yards on 33 punt returns, 26.0 yards on six kickoff returns and had seven receptions for 69 yards. He also had two special teams fumble recoveries.
Davis was waived by Tennessee, with an injury settlement, on Aug. 28 of last year, and he was not with an NFL team during the 2009 regular season.
Posted by: Michael | March 12, 2010 at 07:25 PM
http://cdn.ccomrcdn.com/image/446/410/CDN-IP/cc-common/mlib/1738/10/122400160497.jpg
Yeah
Posted by: Hofbraunow | March 13, 2010 at 02:49 AM
drafting a guard replacement should be the #1 priority if protecting Carson is. Advanced stat sites rated Bobbie as easily the weekest link in pass blocking compared to the average nfl guard.
Posted by: Alex | March 14, 2010 at 11:19 PM
I think last year showed that age has begun to set in on Williams. I bet he was responsible for the majority of penalties on the line. I think if they resign him it needs to be short term and have him either provide quality depth or help groom a future replacement.
Here is a brief update to my list of offseason priorities:
1) WR - check. Bryant upgraded Coles spot.
2) Guard - hopefully they draft a stud with one of their first two picks. A good rookie can step in day one and help improve O-line.
3) Safety - ditto
4) DE - looks like they will draft one in the mid rounds
5) TE - draft in mid rounds
6) CB depth - they are either going to fill in FA or draft. We need a solid nickel and dime with Pats & Colts on schedule.
7) SLB - I don't see this being taken care of this offseason, unless they draft a project in the later rounds.
Posted by: blester01 | March 15, 2010 at 03:01 PM
blester01,
I can't speak for the majority of the penalties that you're lumping on Bobby because I didn't see every snap of every game, but in the games I saw, it was Big Whit getting called for a lot of holds and HippopotaSmith getting a lot of false starts later in the season (after Collins and Roland split them fairly even in the early goings). I was at the Cleveland game in Cleveland, and I believe Whit was the only one penalized (other than a couple of delay of games charged to Carson).
Posted by: Wyatt | March 15, 2010 at 04:48 PM
Here's the penalty breakdown for the O-line. The stats. don't make a distinction between dead-ball penalties and holds, but suffice it to say the Whit and Williams were both called for too many penalties. Whitworth gets somewhat of a pass versus B.Williams because he plays LT vs. RG, which is significantly more demanding. Bobbie's a great leader and all, but I submit that he's merely average on the field. A short to medium term deal is all we should offer.
Penalties: 35 of the 73 infractions on offense were called on the line. Andrew Whitworth had 11 for 81 yards; Bobbie Williams 7 for 61, Kyle Cook 3 for 25, Evan Mathis 3 for 20, Anthony Collins 2 for 10, Dennis Roland 4 for 20, Nate Livings 4 for 25 and Andre Smith 1 for 5.
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/tag/bobbie-williams/
Posted by: colin | March 15, 2010 at 05:06 PM
Colin,
Thanks for the stats. I guess Bobbie's penalties don't look as bad as I remember. It would be interesting to know if his penalties were spread throughout the season or more at the end. For some reason, I remember a couple of games near the end where he would be called for holding or false start b/c the guy across from him had a very good first step and it was getting to him. It seemed as if he was running out of gas.
I agree with you that Whit gets a bit of a pass b/c if he gets beat, his ass better hold, but I am surprised to see the 11 flags. Regardless, they need to upgrade the guard spots to finish rebuilding the line. I think with a solid line, great running game, and decent receivers Palmer should be a threat once again.
Posted by: blester01 | March 15, 2010 at 08:29 PM
This is another example why the Bengal's media sucks. They advocate the Mike Brown way of drafting: don't build upon proven fundamentals of a strong team- dominate the line of scrimmage.
Question for Baghdad Hob:
Q: Shouldn't the Bengals be looking for an O-lineman? The reason they don't throw is because the line can't pass protect! The 29 sacks are misleading because they didn't pass often this last season. --Andy B., Cincinnati, OH
ANDY: Here’s a stat for you. They were 10th in the NFL allowing sacks per pass. I agree it wasn’t always good. But with four new guys, top 10 is more than you could have hoped for when you play Baltimore and Pittsburgh four times.
I don’t think they go for one early. But I think you’ll see them start looking in the third or fourth round for a guard. If they’re purely taking the best guy on the board at No. 21, it very well could be Idaho guard Mike Iupati, a guy that some think is the next Steve Hutchinson. But given their needs, wouldn’t that be ridiculous?
Or would it if they think he can be a perennial Pro Bowler?
I would go back to the Whitworth pick and say it never hurts you in the AFC North to take a guy that projects to being a solid NFL lineman. But why do I think Bengaldom would storm PBS a la the Bastille with Carson Palmer scraping bottom with receivers?
Moron...
Posted by: blester01 | March 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Someone did a study of this a few years ago: you should never pick OG in the first round. You can get a very high quality OG (almost as good as the top OG every year) in round 2 or round 3.
They should pick either safety, defensive line, or WR with the first pick. The draft is also pretty deep for defensive line.
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Posted by: Wyatt | March 18, 2010 at 09:28 AM