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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;

    Introduction

    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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.... a joke right?... right?... wtf

Please God, no.


I think they should let him play on the team, but only if he changes his name,

from Adam "PacMan" Jones, to

Adam "Basketball" Jones,

or, to the much less counter-intuitive form,
which would of course be Adam "Basset-Baa" Jones

But really, scratch all that;
I think we should ask Ed Jones
and see what he thinks about it

i have the words... hell to the no!

I know that I am going to be the only one who shares this position, but I think this could be a good move. Let Zimmer put him on a short leash and let him play nickel or dime. He would be an upgrade or good competition to Trent. We need a good 3rd and 4th CB to shut down teams like the Colts and Pats in the playoff; or someone to step in if one of the starters go down. Right now we don't have it.

I know that we all want squeaky clean dudes on our team, but they don't exist or are very few. For all those years everyone thought Marvin Harrison was the man b/c he so cool and quite and everyone wanted a guy like him on their team; turns out he was a closet psychopath.

I agree though; him signing a contract should have him void his nickname, and have it changed to "basketball". Mike Brown would score some points on that one.

Cincinnati = "The Island of Misfit Toys"

Get ready Bengals, this is Mike Brown with no salary floor. While Synder and Jones will over spend the Bengals will get whoever they can on the cheap. I don't think this would be a bad move, if he acts up cut his sorry butt. He can play #3 cb and provide insurance against injury. He's better than David Jones. Nobody has brought up the return game either. Put this guy back for kickoffs and let him go, maybe punts, but Cosby was pretty good for that. He adds an explosive possiblity on special teams that the Bengals really need.

JoseOle - Exactly what I was going to post. With no salary floor Mike Brown is drooling at putting guys to work who have been out of the league for a year for next to nothing. Does the elimination of a team's salary floor eliminate any minimum individual player salaries?

WOW! he signed with a CFL team and caused such a stir he was cut before he even made it to Canada.
This is going to end badly.
And no minumum salary this coming season?
This a Joe Mexico of not good.

Jose Ole --

How can you say the Bengals have "no return game"? Cosby made the All-Rookie team as a Punt Returner and Bernard Scott had a Kickoff return for a TD and many other large returns when he was back there (see Jets playoff game, opening kickoff). Pacman wouldn't help this team much at all. Not a fan of this workout.

Can't we shop somewhere besides the bargain shelf? Why do we have to restock the cupboard with dented cans?

I'll admit i'm afraid of a future where MB doesn't have a salary floor. Maybe i'll be able to be the kicker then lol. Anyway I think a lot of people will be surprised this offseason in the NFL. I really doubt it is going to be the spending free for all everyone thinks it will be. I think more teams will spend less than there will be teams that spend more. Look at last years class some of the top money signings (Haynesworth, Cassell) only had average seasons if not worse. We'll see in a month if i am incorrect but i just don't see teams even Synder throwing 200 million plus on players contracts.

the story is not a joke but the comments calling this a good decision have to be. Are you people living in mikey brown fantasy land? It appears the off the field incidents are finally calming down then Maualuga, then sign a crack head then Adam Jones? Maybe mikey wasn't happy because Cincy actually wasn't the laughing stock of the league. They are definitly headed that way again with these moves

How is Matt Jones not a good pick up?

And don't cry me a river about how he has been arrested and we need model citizens on the Bengals. Who cares. We need players and this guy has the ability to really help.

At the NFL Combine, Jones, measured in at 6' 6" tall, weighed 237 pounds and recorded scores during the tests that showed speed and explosive ability that had not been seen before in a player of his size. These scores earned him the nickname "The Freak" from the coaches and athletes in attendance. These scores included being timed between 4.37 and 4.40 seconds in the 40-yard dash, a 39.5" vertical jump, and a 10' 10" broad jump.

For a no strings one year deal. Once again, how is this a bad deal?

No draft picks and this guy could be better than Brandon Marshal.

Pacman worked out BUT WAS NOT OFFERED a contract.

The negativitey out of this site never ceases to amaze.

With all of the other WR out there that are Free Agents, this move is ridiculous. It reinforces the fact that Mike Brown is only willing to bring in players with 'potential' on the cheap.

Oh and AFCNORTHCHAMPS must be on crack with Matt Jones based on this comment: "No draft picks and this guy could be better than Brandon Marshal." HAHAHA. You are just as ignorant as the entire Brown family!

Matt Jones = The NFL's Chris "Birdman" Anderson

AFCNorthChamps,

It's not a good move because Matt Jones isn't that good of a WR. He was a bust for Jacksonville before he was caught doing lines of cocaine in his car. Now he has been out of football for a year and he is the answer to our problem at WR. Maybe his problem in Jacksonville was he didn't have an innovative offensive mind like Brat to work with him.

I'm also sure MB now thinks he has solved the Bengals problems at WR.

So call me crazy but I don't like signing a guy who has never been productive on the field AND has off the field issues. I don't care if he "has tools" or not.

The Bengals are to redeeming criminals as Heinz is to catsup.

In defense of the Matt Jones move, he never really had a good QB in Jacksonville, either. I can see this being a good idea if he's used as a #3/#4 WR here. If the idea behind it is that he's the starter opposite Chad, it's a terrible move. Either way, they need to go after Brandon Marshall, T.O., or draft a WR in the first two rounds.

Happy Nat,

Jones costs $700K for one year with no strings attached. His last active year (2008), he did not play all games or have a good QB and he still caught 65 balls for 761 yards. He's also 6'6" and runs a 4.4 and he's 26 years old.

The Bengals #2 wideout production-wise for 2009 was Coles. He caught 43 balls for 514 yards. He costs a LOT more than $700K, is a older, and has less potential upside as you know what you have with him already. Not ready to get rid of him yet but that's beside the point.

I'm sorry but I don't see the downside here. Check Mo Egger's blog, and other observers, they're in the same boat.

Instead of using any move the Bengals make as an excuse to spray unoriginal lines about how "MB" sucks, why not recognize a potentially good move. Yeah it might not work, but i'd aruge the option value is high here and the downside is nil.

Go back and you will see the geniuses on this site ripping the Cedric Benson pickup and the re-signing of Chris Henry as well. Come to grips with the fact that, while they're not perfect, the Bengals have made some savvy trades in the past few years with a lot of these moves.

None of this is to say that I don't think we need to address WR further, but now we can keep our draft picks and use them on a younger guy in Rd 1 or Rd 2, instead of trading them for a RFA who may have less upside than Jones.

@ AFCNORTHCHAMPS

Wow. I mean, I shouldn't be surprised, your name says it all: you are clearly a total Homer and apologist for the Bengals. And you apparently have very little football knowledge. Mike Brown loves having fans like you.

Matt Jones is a mediocre WR at BEST. If you have ever watched him play, you would notice that for all his "measurables," (6'6" and 4.4 speed), the guy has very little quickness, runs TERRIBLE routes, and gets little separation. I mean, Andre Caldwell is hands down faster than Matt Jones...but clearly WR is about more than straight-line speed because Caldwell didn't do much this year. In fact, Jerry Rice supposedly ran a 4.6 40 at his combine, and he is by far the best WR of all time.

I remember watching Matt Jones run a simple out-route in his rookie year, and I remember thinking from that moment he was a lazy bum. He totally rounded off the route and let the ball come to him, allowing the DB to make a play on it. Poor route running, no intensity, no heart.

Do I think this is a bad pickup? Not really. I actually think Jones could add something in the Red Zone and possibly on 3rd down. But don't think this guy is going deep anytime soon (God I wish we had Deshawn Jackson. But who needs him when you have Jerome Simpson!!!) I wouldn't be shocked if MFB tries to do something ridiculous like convert Jones to TE. But overall, I am totally fine with this move. However, saying this guy is even in the same class as Brandon Marshall is absurd. Marshall is like a young TO. He's a fucking monster. The guy had 21 catches IN ONE FUCKING GAME this year. And he has Kyle Orton at QB. Not exactly Peyton Manning.

Bottom line: Bengals should still go after Brandon Marshall, TO, Steve Breaston, and other PROVEN WRs. And on top of that, they should still draft one in the 1st or 2nd round. Gilyard should only be considered in the 2nd or later. And I'm honestly not sure that Jermaine Gresham is a good fit for Bratkowski's offense since he doesn't seem to realize that TEs are eligible receivers.

SM,

I agree with you that the M.Jones pickup would be absurd if he is being picked up to fill Coles spot. So far we do not have any indication that is the case. Hopefully he is being looked at for a potential third or forth WR spot. The best part of the move is that we can easily cut him in the preseason if he isn't working out.

This better be just the first move at WR in FA. I better read players names like Marshall, Jackson, Floyd, Hixon, and Avant. I also better read names like Watson and Spaeth coming in for the TE spot. It would be great if they can fill those two major holes before the draft so they can focus on some other problems in April. If they don't then I will blast Brown and Lewis for thinking they have gold in an old turd, until then I am calling this a good move.

I think signing Matt Jones is a good move so long as they are bringing him in to compete for a WR position and not handing it to him. They need to go after Brandon Marshall hard and view Matt Jones only as a backup to a premier starting WR.

You guys can hate all you want but it was a good move,He's a 6'6 with speed Little Risk having min Contract can be cut at anytime High Reward (Something we need on offense is huge target who can stretch the field)

----Matt Jones is a mediocre WR at BEST----

Um He neverh ad a real QB and always part of a horrible Offense and still was more productive then Chris Henry...

And with how people say Not having Chris Henry Ruined our offense well then we have a upgrade.

Seriously to those people calling him a bust he had his most productive year 750 yards in 12 games... with ah horrible offense..

He's out produced Henry which we loss last season every year so how can you have problem with this move? Yes he was arrested he made a mistake but he also has 700k contract that will get him cut if he gets in trouble or can't beat Jerome out for the 6th WR spot.

@redey

Honestly, I can barely understand what you've written. Take 4 seconds and put some punctuation in there. You have random words capitalized--are you German? Just kidding man. But seriously, writing is a skill that you can use for the rest of your life.

Also, in case people don't realize this, the word "mediocre" means "average." It does NOT mean terrible. I never said Matt Jones is or will be terrible. I actually said I was fine with this move, if you read my (admittedly long) post. But it is absurd to compare him to Brandon Marshall. For the record, here's how Henry, Jones, and Marshall stack up:

Name Games Catches Catches/Game TDs
C. Henry 54 119 2.2 21
M. Jones 55 166 3.0 15
B. Marshall 61 327 5.4 25

Jones is slightly better at catches/game than Henry, but clearly Marshall is more productive. In yards it's also very lopsided in favor of Marshall. Jones is not going to turn into Marshall. If he has 103 catches and 10 TDs, I will gladly call myself out in this forum.

Ok, so we all agree it is a good move if he is to come in a compete for the 3rd or 4th spot and not #2.

Who else do you guys see as an option to pick up in FA?

The unrestricted FA's are:
1. Terrell Owens, Buffalo Bills (36)
2. Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (29)
3. Derrick Mason, Baltimore Ravens (36)
4. Kevin Walter, Houston Texans (29)
5. Chris Chambers, Kansas City Chiefs (32)
6. Domenik Hixon, New York Diego Giants (25)

The restricted FA's available are: (I don't see us getting anyone of these guys unless through a trade, which is a slim chance at best)
1. Vincent Jackson, San Diego Chargers (27)
2. Miles Austin, Dallas Cowboys (26)
3. Brandon Marshall, Denver Broncos (26)
4. Braylon Edwards, New York Jets (27)
5. Malcom Floyd, San Chargers (28)
6. Steve Breaston, Arizona Cardinals (27)
7. Jason Avant, Philadelphia Eagles (27)

Out of all the UFA's Hixon interests me the most.

Hixon?

Really?

I'd gladly take the aging TO or Mason over Hixon (Mason only because it hurts a division rival by taking Baby's security blanket), but the UFA I'm most interested in is definitely Kevin Walter. He's a consistent performer as a #2, so long as he's got an above-average quarterback (something I believe Carson still is, at worst) and an attention-drawing (from DBs, not the media) #1 WR (which Chad certainly is).

In terms of RFAs, I'd be more interested in Floyd or VJax than Marshall - Marshall might be more talented overall, but the Chargers' wideouts don't have the same baggage Marshall has, and both are big, tall guys that can stretch the field, making Matt Jones more of depth move than an actual viable starter.

I swear that said "Baby Joe's security blanket" when I clicked "Post". But yeah, I was referring to Mason as Flacco's security blanket. I think the percentage of throws to, and receptions by, Mason vs the rest of the Raven's wideouts may have been even more lopsided than Chad vs the Bengals' wideouts ratio. Maybe.

Oh, and to clarify why I'm not interested in Hixon coing to the Bengals, call it the New York Receiver Precedent. Blame Coles, but Hixon's lack of consistency really worries me that Mikey Boy would overpay him and the team would get limited production. Also, I find it funny that Mikey gladly overpays Coles, yet haggles with the team's first round pick and essentially loses him for most of the season.

Wyatt --

You're incorrect in stating that the Charger Wideouts "don't have the baggage that Marshall has". Check some background on Vincent Jackson, especially on events leading up their playoff loss. He and Antonio Cromartie are consistently crucified on local Charger radio for being degenerates. Hence, expect both to be in orange and black in 2010.

The next "Project Mayhem" stunt from WDR should be lobbying for a trade for Brandon Marshall. Make Mikey know that that's what we want.

Next blog entry title:


" KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESs "


Or maybe that's spelled "JONESes"

JONESes H...

I can see it now...... HBO presents "Redeemer" the passionate story of a boy with no football knowledge being handed a NFL team and filling it with would be prisoners, leading them to their first super bowl title. All while stuffing cash into his pockets and eating free Dennys. -This will become truth if the Bengals were to pull it off and deep down we all know it. sigh.... Why am I a douche?

I just checked Hixon's stats and you are right they are nothing to get excited about. He would be a project that has NFL experience- a step above Simpson. I most of had him confused with Nicks. I guess I have to change my stance, I do not like any of the UFA that may be available. They are all on the back nine of their career or heading out the door. Kevin Walter was a good 3rd WR for us in 2005, but I don't think he is anything more than that- it also seems he is injured a lot. Anyone of the UFA's may produce no better than Coles- except Walter, at least he can catch- I just don't think he is the right kind of receiver that we need. We need a big dude that can run and go inside. I guess they are going to have to draft that receiver in April, or give up some picks for one of the restricted- I just don't see that happening.

Maybe they can pick up a TE instead. There are only a couple of Guards available, but it sounds like the good ones may be resigned before FA begins.

Here is the UFA list for TE's:
1. Ben Watson, New England Patriots (29)
2. Matt Spaeth, Pittsburgh Steelers (25)
3. Leonard Pope, St. Louis Rams (27)
4. Derek Schouman, Buffalo Bills (25)
5. Randy McMichael, St. Louis Rams (31)

Out of these five I would be very happy to see Watson or Spaeth.

I have just one word: why?

Posted by Mr. Pepeizonfyre:

"I can see it now...... HBO presents "Redeemer" the passionate story of a boy with no football knowledge being handed a NFL team and filling it with would be prisoners, leading them to their first super bowl title. All while stuffing cash into his pockets and eating free Dennys. -This will become truth if the Bengals were to pull it off and deep down we all know it. sigh.... Why am I a douche?"


Mr. Pepeizonfyre:

Because the WDRevolution is Awesome, that's why...


and, we're marching...

:)

I just saw on espn that the Bengals signed Matt Jones Friday to a one year deal.

I do not know what to say either

posted by Michael:

"I just saw on espn that the Bengals signed Matt Jones Friday to a one year deal.

I do not know what to say either"


Michael:

How 'bout "YESSS....!"

February 2010 is National Bengals' Jones Month!

Get in the spirit, comrades!!!


x x
___

blester01,

I'd agree on Spaeth or Watson, but I can't imagine the Bengals will end up with Pope, as they could've had him, likely at a discount, when he was cut from the Cardinals earlier this season. Y'know, when BOTH THEIR LEGITIMATE TIGHT ENDS WERE ALREADY HURT? Also, your information about Pope is incorrect - he signed with the other Missouri team after getting cut by the Cards (he actually plays for the Chiefs).

Also, apparently the Ginger Kid is gone, in favor of Dave Rayner, a guy with a HUGE leg but short-distance accuracy issues. Yes, please read that again. Oh, well, at least the other team won't be fielding the ball at the 27 every time on kickoffs.

The Bengals need to quit Jonesin' around with the free agent market and sign someone worthwhile.

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