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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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December 15, 2009


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Thank You! someone who has sense and is a bengals fan. I am getting tired of reading these overweight office GMs saying that Carson is washed up, he's hurt, the game has passed him by. Games 1-4 I would say were his tune up games since he rehabbed all summer, even though he did orchestrate some nice come backs in the fourth quarter. But since Henry went down we dont have a wide out core of anyone. When you had Chad taking two defenders, and Henry running streaks or whatever he did, that means Coles had to be wide open somewhere, or Caldwell (w.o. 4) would have no one on him. Plus when you have wide outs running the defenders out of the box, the running game looks even better. But with out Henry, we have no one streaking the field so the safeties begin to move up. Chad still double teamed but Coles couldn't get out from under his bedsheets let alone a decent defensive back. Caldwell nothing better than an average wide out right now. No time in the pocket for palmer + all of the above = less than 100 yards passing. But what do I know? I do not have as much insight as some of the crazies who post random stuff on the internet.....

What I'd like to see over the next three games is more short passes to Benson, Scott(if healthy), and LJ. These are tough and durable backs that need touches.

The Eagles throw screen passes so well, and it's one of the best plays against teams that crowd the box and try to blitz.

Henry is out. We got it, but he's been out a while now. Why throw a screen to Leonard every time? Benson had a decent catch and run the other day, and I think LJ did too, or at least the week before. A 3 yard pass that keeps a defense more honest is better than two straight runs for 3 yards, and then another 3rd and long, we KNOW you're passing Brat.

San Diego has been pretty good in the red zone though. So all that running maybe gets you four field goals. While they're zinging it all over the field. They don't need to beat Hall and J Jo since they have a great tight end.

We still need a Brat Wurst action this year.

The main problem with the offence is that the playbook is shrinking with every game. You could write it on the back of a stamp right now. Personally I find it hard to blame the QB when the line is giving him no time and the playcalling is so obviously signposted. And only one wide receiver understands the terms 'wide' and 'receive'

Despite this I feel better about the San Diego game than I did about the Vikings. SD are due to get beat by someone - anyone - and sometimes that is all it takes.

I don't think the Bengals can throw too many screen passes b/c they have to keep the running back in to block. Whenever they try to run one Carson is running for his life as soon as he takes the snap.

What I'm amazed by is how bad the line has gotten. It's not like teams are bringing more guys or anything, even w/ your typical 4 man rush guys are just getting beat off the ball play after play. And even when they aren't getting beat off the ball (and sometimes when they are) they're committing penalties.

1st round pick next year has to go O-Line. Unit has been awful as of late. It is kind of odd that it lines up w/ Henry going down, but I think it's more of a coincidence than anything. Early in the season there wasn't much tape on these guys on the line and teams weren't sure how to beat em, but as the season has worn on I think it's pretty obvious to state that other teams now lineman now know the weaknesses of this O-Line.

Hopefully Smith gets the majority of the snaps the next 3 weeks and catches on quick.


I normally don't think narratives like the Chris Henry injury helpfully explain anything. And that single data point explanations like that are dangerously misleading. But in this case the change was just so striking, the event so obvious, and the logic supporting it also sound.

But yes, I think the line play accounts for a huge piece of it too. Bad line plus no deep threat = stale offense.

Although I agree with the general assessment about things not being Carson's problem to shoulder on his own, I see some troubling things out of him, feet not set (floaters), throwing into double and triple coverage after staring Chad down from the moment he receives the snap, balls thrown short fromm eight yards.
I ALSO see, poor route running and bad hands from the WR's.
Further, three penatlties on the first (Four?)plays of the game, and no end in sight for the whole fucking game, that is sad.
And to piggy back, I see NOTHING from BRat that instills any level fo confidence going forward, no pre game creativity, no significant and successful in game adjustments (would have been nice Sunday Brat), and a complete refusal to stick with anything but the power run game and a predictable dunk and dunk pass attack. What I DO see from him is, Ahhh screw it, I've said it like fifty times before, do a query on comments by me if you care.

I really don't think Carson is the problem with the offense. Bratkowski just flat out sucks and seems to refuse to throw it deep.
If he at least made an attempt to regardless of the outcome it opens up the running game even more since teams have to at least consider that we might throw it deep.

Without Carson Cincy is only an average team. An average QB probably wouldn't have led us down the field against Pittsburgh and Baltimore to win those games, and we're only 7-6 team at that point.


Don't forget the first Browns game, twice (once on the game-tying drive that would've been the game-winning drive if it weren't for Brad St. Louis, and again in OT when Carson made the fourth down conversion with his legs), the Denver game which would've been a shutout without a late drive by Carson (and would've been a win without a fluke play by that guy who used to play for the Colts), they don't hang 45 on the Bears, they probably don't beat Baltimore the second time...without Carson, the Bengals are 4-9, probably, at best.

Carson is a top 10 QB, but not a top 5 anymore. Bratkowski is just awful--you and I and every player on the opposing team knows what's coming. First down: run. Second down: run. Third down: short pass or screen.

I 100% agree with comment above: just throw it downfield at least 2-3 times per game. An interception is less likely than an incomplete pass. But, as a former DB, I can tell you: it changes your mentality when you realize that a team might test you deep. No DB likes to get tested deep. The Bengals have to implement the long pass if they want to be a real threat in the playoffs (assuming we make it, which isn't guaranteed. A 10-6 or 9-7 finish would not surprise me at much at this point).

Also, I would say we have a 95% chance of losing this week. If I had to bet on this game, I'd take San Diego by 14. Unless our offense really gets going, we're in trouble without Crocker and Peko (probably our two best defenders). Who in the hell is gonna cover Antonio Gates? Nuff said.

As much as San Diego is "due" for a loss, this team doesn't seem up to that task. On defense they're weak in the middle. They frankly would have been weak in the middle even with Crocker and Roy Williams healthy, but without those three you're relying on two rookies and Ndukwe to take on Antonio Hall-of-Famer Gates, not to mention the Chargers are deep (and tall) at receiver and they spread the ball around. I don't think Peko is all that great, but his backups are a drop off.

I think Bratkowski was awful when he was pass, run, pass as much as he is now when he is run, run, dink pass. I get the feeling it's really Marvin Lewis who is dictating the playcalling in 2009 ... that Marvin Lewis convinced himself if you just decide to be a power running team it will work out. Amazingly it did work out against the Steelers and Ravens, but it seems like a fluke. This team is actually pretty crummy running the ball lately on 3rd and short and near the goal line. Hint to Marvin: GOOD power running teams can run in those situations.

The Bengals offensive line, for whatever reason, played way over their heads for the first few games. It's Whitworth, a bunch o' journeymen, and Andre The Hippo rookie. You don't expect perfection from that bunch, do you? Other (good) offensive coordinators find ways to work with lines that aren't that great, use some plays that develop more quickly, figure out a way to frickin throw a successful screen pass, etc.

I think we're going to look back on 2009 as the season where the division games were lightning-in-a-bottle, once-in-a-lifetime stuff... the Packers game was just catching a team at the right exact time when their starting OT got hurt and they were in a bit of disarray... maybe it was some sort of karmic payback for the Denver loss which was insanely fluky... but this team is 3-4 against the rest of the NFL and not scaring anyone. As Pat Williams said, "They don't impress me none."

Hobspin has some talk with Bratworst Predictakowski

Hobspin says they cannot play Simpson 'cause he only plays the X receiver which is Ocho's role.


Ocho is a rocket scientist of wide receivers. He studies extra film and he knows his stuff. He may be a goof and all, but the guy can be asked to play whatever it takes. So if Simpson can only play X they can get Ocho to play Z or whatever. It's amazing the crap they put on

If, IF Simpson can only play the 'x' receiver, and can't figure out how to line up somewhere else...he's retarded. And, AND if he can only play X, and that's Chad's spot, why the fuck did they draft him!??!

Oh, because MB is fucktard.

With Chris Henry out because of injury, the dynamics have changed. With his height alone, at his position, he was a distraction to the opponents just lining up at the line for the next play, all the more so, once play action started, not to mention his leaping/reaching ability...Hey, that wasn't Larry Fitzgerald out there, so why were the opponent DB's juked so much?

When Chris Henry was playing, especially in those division games, I remember it seemed like *everyone* got the ball, was getting thrown to by Carson, and caught passes: Coles, Henry, Foschi, Caldwell...and every once in a while, ChadOcho (for the most part).

With Henry playing, the line looked good, because Carson found receivers open's that poem go?

"For want of a nail..." ?

Now, as someone else said, it seems like they just double-cover Chad.

Anyway, I hope this time the running game is a charm for them, i.e. against SD, and that they can somehow adapt and furthur implement a passing game.


Look, we all knew that the offensive line was average and a bit old when the year started, so I'm not jumping up and down with surprise. Yeah, Carson is getting rushed, but that's because it takes more juice from an offensive line to constantly be shuffling around and 'pushing' holes as opposed to defending a passer. A power rush offensive is physically draining on an offensive line, pure and simple.

I'm with most of you, I miss Chris. The dynamic of the WRs is crap. I miss the ol' days of TJ, Chris, and Ocho. That was offense. Now I hate Brat as much as all of you guys, but who are we going to launch the bomb to? Chad can only do so much so often...

And on another note; if we know what the Bengal's special teams are, well, special, why not through a little spice in the having LJ take punt returns and kick-offs. ...I'm just saying...

Haven't they switch up like that a bit, with Quan Cosby?

They probably should do that, i.e. more often...I wonder what Carson thinks about it

Yes, they did switch it up... about every other kick back in the first third of the season. It was an upgrade from pathetic to ignorable.

Quan is trained and remains listed as a WR. We are all saying that Carson's issues fall from a lack of targets (that as his protection). Why then are we using WRs for runners and runners for, well, insurance? Am I the only one seeing this?

Anybody else pissed that we couldnt try to get Ced four more yards and atleast get some kind of accomplishment from sundays embarrassing humiliation?

Wow, correct me if im wrong. While i tend to agree with most of the post made here, im a bit puzzled by all of you placing blame on the loss to SLIM-DADDY. Ill be the first to tell you i love him... its hard not to with his boundless amount of potential. But looking back the guy wasnt getting much playing time to begin with, and when he did it was an obvious passing down(standard issue of brats ignorance, the DCord. doesnt even have to guess). I try not to get into the minds of our coaches but the only explanation for this is the commitment to the run, and Slim's lack of physicality and inability to run block. Advantage=Cawldwell. We are without a doubt a better passing team with him in there and opening things up ... but his unfortunate loss is not the reason for our puttering 81' Honda of an offense. SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE BETTER IF HE WAS STILL HERE, RIGHT? Well what are we actually missing is the better question? 1.5 catches a game, on pace for 24 for the year...

UGhhhh never mind i miss that lanky *** gazelle streakin down the field and showing up in the endzone like it was a hide away from the police... but im getting carried away..obviously. Just utter frustration at this point and i needed to vent because this could go on for days. So, to those who actually started to read this with the intention of being enlighted i apologize.

Just a few more things before i part..
efff that brown weiner riden dumbass brat.. and his ignorance
efff marvin... dude is softer than a bag of sun warmed marshmellows >> sad thing is i don't think he is stupid, just a coward worried about his next pay check. VIVA VIVA la season of restained bengal dousche-baggedness.. hope im not the only one who refused to get there hopes up!

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