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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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This organization has stated time and time again if a coach has a chance at a promotion elsewhere...they will let them go and at least explore his options.
Happens in Baltimore and Pittsburgh all the time..

Better get used to it if we continue to be successful.

Years ago I had a discussion about the futility of the team, and how to measure it. W/L record is easy. There's always lack of national recognition through primetime games or Pro Bowl appearances. Then there is the lack of coords getting courted (much less hired) as HCs, and the lack of position coaches getting courted as Coords. Tigeralum is right: it goes with the territory.

I may be wrong, but I think it may be league (not team) policy to void a contract if a promotion elsewhere is offered. How else are all the Belicheck ex-assistants now HCs?

But sometimes the smart coordinators know their own limitations as well as the limitations of being a head coach. Most HC's don't call plays on either side of the ball. Does Zimmer want to have to stand there while someone else has his team's defense in their hands. And if you can't tell I'll come up with any reasonable theory, however crazy, on why Zimmer should stay and argue it as hard as possible.

I think Leo's right. It wouldn't matter if Mike Brown signed Zimmer to a 10 year contract, if he has a chance to be a head coach he'll go.

If I understand the policy correctly, a coach/front office person isn't able to get out of their contract to go and do the same thing for another organization, but they can if it is clearly a promotion. The most recent example I can think of the difference between the former and the latter would be Jon Gruden and the trade from Oakland to Tampa Bay (lateral move - thus, a trade had to be facilitated), as opposed to George Kokinus, who was only able to leave his position in Baltimore to be the Browns' GM if he was given control of player personnel and day-to-day football operations (which proved to be untrue, but I digress).

But yeah, I would hope that Mikey Boy can lock Zimmer up and that Zimmer is happy to be a DC, likely followed with being a Head Coach-in-waiting (assuming the dream scenario works out where Marvin becomes GM and Zim becomes the HC). Even if Mikey Boy wants to keep paying himself the GM bonus, at least make Marvin the Head of Player Personnel and let him handle scouting and drafting and work with Katie on contracts.

All they can do is offer him a contract and see if he'll stay. There's no question he will be interviewed for HC jobs league-wide, if not in the college ranks as well. My HOPE is that he's grown so attached to this team that he wants to give it one or two more years.

My DREAM is that we win the Super Bowl this year, finish #1 in D, and Zim decides to come back and try to repeat. This guy is probably the best coach we've had here since Bill Walsh was our OC in the 1970's--and what happened to him? He got a HC job with...drumroll...the 49ers, for you kids out there. And they beat us, twice, in the Super Bowl. Oh the irony.

BTW, Wyatt, I LOVE your idea. Put Marvin in the Ozzie Smith roll and let Zim take over as HC. Brilliant.

i hear what your saying, but the last thing i want is for zimmer to enter into contract negotiations during the season. the man is already having to deal with the hardest a guy could have to deal with, and gameplan for the nfl. there will be teams coming, but lets finish the season first. then lock him up as best we can

Wyatt a Position coach needs permission to leave to become a coordinator,Tampa is quite famous for not allowing their position coaches to look for coordinator jobs...With that being said we need make Zimmer the Highest payed Coordinator and reward him for his work...then if he wants to be HC so be it but he may not want the extra duties because coordinator alrdy takes alot of time and he wanted more to spend with his family...but at the same time I remember reading that he felt he deserved a HC chance after Dallas but never got it so maybe he takes the chance because its what vikki & his family would probably want...

Bengals brought in Joey Galloway and Doss today. I hope they're spending some time game-planning for the Raiders, because you cannot take lightly a west coast trip (especially this franchise which has a bad record on the west coast)

Aqua, no doubt. We have never--I repeat, NEVER--won in Oakland! How incredible is that? We need to jump on them early, go up 21-0 in the 1st Quarter, and let our RBs have at their crappy run D. I bet we throw at least 10 balls to Chad to help him get his mojo back. Might be tough, however, with Asamough at DB. Dude is good.

Looking forward to a dominant 48-7 game, but I hope our players don't come out flat these next three weeks.

Bengals are 0-9 in Oakland, and were 1-4 in Los Angeles, against the Raiders.
The Bengals have never won in the Meadowlands (0-10) and never in Minnesota (0-4) and are only 5-9 in San Diego. So you're talking about having four road games left in places where the Bengals have a grant total record of 5-32 (0.135 winning percentage). Those are pretty astounding numbers!

To win the division this year the Bengals literally have to turn history on its head.

Okay, guys, while we're drudging up unimportant stats, the Bengals had never won 5 consecutive road games in franchise history until Sunday, they had a 2-10 record in Pittsburgh in their last dozen games there and a 0-8 record against Pittsburgh in Cincinnati in their last 8 home games against the Steelers, and they'd never been 5-0 in the AFC Central or AFC North at any point in franchise history, not even the two Super Bowl seasons.

I can understand your trepidation regarding putting any faith in a team run by Mike Brown; however, this isn't the year to bring up old stats, just like I was forced to tell Steelers fans repeatedly in the week leading up to this last game. Sure, they are the defending SB champions; however, that was last season, and doesn't play a factor on the outcome of this season's games. Granted, we've got this huge historical precedent that tells us the Bengals aren't going to win any of those games, but this season has more or less turned historical precedence on its ear, wouldn't you think?

I honestly hate myself for being this optimistic, but the only game I'm worried about down the stretch is the Vikings game. Provided Hall and Joseph stay healthy, I think they've got a good shot at shutting down V-Jax and Floyd just like they have so many other receivers this season. My biggest worry for the Chargers game is actually Gates, just because of how successful the Schaub to Daniels plays were against the Bengals in the Texans game. As for the Raiders and Jets, have you seen either one of those teams lately? Oakland's starting a new QB this week, and he's going to see a lot of pressure from the d-line, so I think the streak of backup QBs beating the Bengals gets buried this weekend (it died when the Bengals beat Derek Anderson and the Ghost of 2007 Past back in October). And the Jets? Sanchez is more likely to throw to Hall and/or Joseph than his own receivers, so even if the Jets' D remains solid (which it should), our D can probably put us in good enough field position and/or score enough points to win the game. Also, don't forget that Carson's had tremendous success against Rex Ryan defenses, and, like I said, it's a 40-year-old man and workhorse running back that have me scared. Of course, the Steelers did beat the Vikes and the Bengals beat the Steelers (twice), so by (admittedly flawed) football math, they should beat the Vikings.

Oh, and just for the record, that wasn't my idea. I actually stole it from someone in the "Future" thread. They actually suggested ML as GM, but I doubt MBB would give up the GM bonus, so the Head of Player Personnel idea came to me.

I think one thing to keep in mind regarding assistant coaches is the possible labor strike in 2011. It will be interesting to see how many teams want to extend assistant coaches past 2010 and have to pay them if for some reason a season or at least part of season were to be canceled. They might sign at least the coordinators but the other assistants might be in for a rude awakening.

Such a fun idea.*

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    Bengals Futility - By The Numbers

    • 20 - Years since the Bengals have won a playoff game

      0 - Total number of playoff wins in Mike Brown's tenure as owner

      .359 - Bengals regular season winning percentage since Mike Brown took over as owner (115-206-1 in 20 seasons)

      29-34-1 - Record since 2005 playoff game vs Steelers

      6 - Seasons the Bengals have lost their first six games since 1991. No other team has more than two.

      0 - Teams North of Cincinnati without an indoor practice facility

      10 - Players arrested in a 14 month span from 2005-2006

      32 - Mike Brown's ranking, out of 32, of the "Best Owners in the NFL" by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated in 2007

      458,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, that Hamilton County Taxpayers paid to build PBS

      2032 - Year that Hamilton County will have finally paid off its debt on the stadium deal

      3 - Total number of non-clerical employees employed in the Bengals scouting department, lowest in the league

      747,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, paid in free agency by the Bengals from 1994 - 2005, second worst of all 28 teams in existence for the duration, behind only Arizona

      118 – Ranking, out of 118 professional teams, of the “Worst Franchises” in professional sports, as ranked by ESPN the Magazine in 2003.

      97 – Ranking, out of 98 general managers in all four major sports with three or more years of experience, of Mike Brown’s performance as a GM, as ranked by Forbes in 2007.

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