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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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DeDe damnit. Mikey Boy probably doesn't want to buy out his miniscule UFL contract.

All decent points, but let me tell you why I am less upset about this signing than you are. (I am leery, but not totally against it)
1. Scott's dinged with a knee issue, and Leonard is a (great) third down back, but a third down back all the same, not a load carrier. Therefore, I would like to see a light load for all three backs this week if Benson plays, no more than ten carries a pop, this can work with three backs as we can still go run heavy without risking too much.
2. Aside form the O-line (this is pure conjecture but I think accurate all the same) RB is the most likely position to be hit with injuries, and depth is never a bad thing, especially when the depth at the bottom has shown he can carry a load, which brings me to my next point
3. Larry is gonna sit largely at the bottom unless his services are needed (hopefully not, annoyed with the parentheses though?)
4. I REALLY like Dede, I wanted to keep him, as well as leonard and scott, and I was initially very excited about it when he went practice squad. But Dede is a change of pace back, not a guy you can give the ball to twenty times a game. In other words, we have NO bell cow type back after Benson, and as I said earlier, the three headed monster is something i don't want to have to use out of necessity during a playoff run.

Again, I am leery about this, and as I said in a thread yesterday, Whit, Carson and Bobbie better be willing to knock this cat down a few pegs if necessary, I have heard too many good things about the chemistry in this locker room to not be worried about the effect larry might have. I hope my worries are unfounded. I also hope he never has to touch the ball more then two times per game.

Sorry, point four has a misleading sentence. I DIDN'T say earlier in post that I dodn't want to have to use a three headed monster during a playoff run, but i don't, there I said it.

I think it good move on the Bengals side u need somebody to help when Benson is tried after running then u put Scott in there also put Benson & Johnson in the back the defence won't know who getting the ball.

Again, if I'm DeDe, I don't want to come back to the Bengals. I wouldn't make much more (if any more) as their third or fourth stringer, and I'm almost guaranteed to be waived again. Why not make the same cash, not have to move, and be a total stud in the UFL? For all we know they reached out to DeDe and he said "Cut me once, shame on me. Cut me twice, shame on you. Cut me three times, and I swear I will cut you back."

Look on the bright side - if you're a woman in the Cincinnati area, you're chances of getting slapped in a bar just went up, at least a little bit.

Oh wait...that's not positive at all. In fact it's probably a bad thing.

Now, if you're a fag on the other hand...

Almost every good running team has two 'workhorses' in the backfield. Miami, Baltimore, New York (giants). While LJ is getting old and has very little production, what if Cedric goes down again toward the end of the season? Do we want Bernard scott (as much as i love him) carrying 20 times+ a game? I'll give him a shot, and hope the bengals run a few 2-back-sets, or even the wildcat once or twice a game with LJ and Cedric.

If he starts to cause problems, axe him, though.

Brock --

Great point. Nobody is saying anything about Ricky Williams being too old in Miami. Dude has had a Renaissance of his career and is playing damn good ball right now. Nobody realizes that the LJ move was made for the playoffs and for the 3 other AFC West teams that they still have to face. He'll be a decent citizen for half of a season and will probably only contribute here or there, but I'd rather have an insurance policy like LJ on the 53 man roster than a waste of space like Orien Harris.

Brock and Rick,

What you guys apparently don't understand is that the Wildcat works best if one of the guys in the backfield can throw the ball, because it adds a whole new dimension to the formation - will they run with a direct snap to the running-only running back, run with a direct snap to the throwing running back, or throw with the throwing running back?

To date, neither LJ nor Ced have shown that ability, so putting both of them in the backfield wouldn't be much different than putting Ced and Leonard back there, other than the fact that Leonard has blocked as a fullback before, while LJ hasn't shown he can block AT ALL.


That's true concerning the blocking, but I'm not saying that Benson and lj have to be out there at the same time, just that having them in the backfield on the Depth Chart would probably help the offense.

Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw, for example in New York.

Ray Rice and Willis McGahee in Baltimore.

Even though most of those guys can and do block, their running game, especially at the goal line in the singleback is still good. If Benson's hip acts up again, or he didn't give it enough time to heal and goes out, I'd rather have Brian Leonard blocking for LJ than for Bernard Scott at 3rd-and-goal on the 1-yard-line.


Quoting your post here, buddy: "I'll give him a shot, and hope the bengals run a few 2-back-sets, or even the wildcat once or twice a game with LJ and Cedric."

So, you did say have them on the field at the same time, hence my comment. Had your comment just said depth chart, I wouldn't have addressed you. Even still, it's nothing personal, just trying to better understand your position.

I don't completely hate this move because it gives us someone who can go in and take a beating towards the end of these next slate of games when we should have a sizeable lead and just want to run out the clock and end the game. So his slumping performance won't be that big of a deal because most RBs at that point in the game won't be getting more than 3 yards per carry when the other team knows a run is coming.

This problem arose against Chicago when Cedric had to come back into the game after a B. Scott injury and ended up with 37 carries even though the game was over by halftime, if not earlier. Giving your stud back 37 carries in a blowout win is not the best way to ensure that you keep playing into late January.

Another thing is that we still have games against the Raiders and Chargers (two teams that LJ knows well from playing them twice a year) as well as a week 16 date with KC which could possibly have some seeding/homefield implications.

Finally, it give Hobson the opportunity to use the awesome "Bengals fire depth charge" headline


They are making it so goddamn hard to be a fan.
I will not root for assholes.

Wow, WEOWN, that link contained so many apostrophe misuses I nearly shot a fag in disgust.



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