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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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This will really simplify things for Mike Brown. He can just sort the list of prospects alphabetically and start picking from the beginning.

Well, one side of the argument could be that our (lack of a ) soucting department will now be at the same level of everyone else. Now other teams will know what it's like going into the draft without a clue as to who they should pick beyond the first 2 rounds.

Ahhh, the NCAA and its big time, D-I member institutions....Ruthless, greedy, and above all else, exploitative.

Typically they prey on the small and weak (student-athletes, fans, their fellow non-BCS/DI schools) but now they're steppin' up to play with the big boys.

The Sontag -

I understand your side of the argument, but this situation actually hurts the Bengals more than other teams with larger scouting staffs. A team like the redskins (they are horrible i must say) still have a scouting staff 4 times the size of the Bengals. Their scouts during the regular season are capable of attending games throughout the country, are staff a mere 3-4 guys dont have the ability to cover as much ground as a larger scouting staff. Mike Brown used these videos to help scout and now he no longer can. The teams with larger staffs will work their way around this, the Bengals cant unless they higher more scouts. Simple as that....

I posted this morning along the same lines as The Devils advocate, but for some reason my last two posts haven't shown up in spite of saying they were posted.

Basically, I'm of the optimistic variety - without his default line of "we have the same resources available (meaning the game film) as the rest of the league", he'll have no excuse to hide behind if the fans make it known that continued underperformance in the draft, DIRECTLY CORRELATING TO A LACK OF SCOUTING DEPARTMENT, will not be tolerated. If we are able to apply enough pressure, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back (or opens the miser's wallet, as the case may be).

Realistically, do I think anything will change? No, I'm more than certain Mikey will come up with a new line of BS, but this is at least a ray of hope.

A) the two sides will work this out, eventually, and
B) if the Bengals small scouting staff can't cover as much ground as a larger one, will someone please explain to me why one of them attended a Coastal Carolina game to begin with?

Cincinnati Bengals receivers coach Mike Sheppard attended Simpson's "workout day". Bratkowski "watched tape." I am not sure any Bengals scouts actually went to a regular Coastal Carolina game.

Clearly they screwed up big time.

Of the draft day busts in the Marvin Lewis era Simpson is currently riding number 1, and Keiwan Ratliff is number 2. Although you could make a case for Odell Thurman being the biggest bust since he seemed like he could play well, but they should have stayed away because of the criminality factor.

I suppose if Simpson ever gets on the field and catches a couple of TDs he can redeem himself since Keiwan set the bar at "suck".

@Leo - the Bengals actually do have one guy who covers the southeast. One of the Tobins. Amazing right?

Of course, the southeast probably has the most territory and highest concentration of talent of any region so having only one guy is a travesty.

Also, that one guy is focusing on Coastal Carolina, which speaks poorly to his ability to prioritize.

@Karl, yea and the same could be said for the NFL with their Sunday Ticket prices, ruthless and greedy, and preying on the weak NFL fans. The NFL is just as greedy as the colleges are. They have a product and they want to paid for their services. You know, in the same manner the Bengals fans want MFB to provide a competitive product every year and receiving Free Money by not doing it and doing his business in a rent free facility.

If this does not get cleared up, MFB better be hiring more scouts. @FeedMikeBrown, there are plenty of more BUSTS we all can name, don't forget Hooter's Boy Kenny Irons, AJ Nicholson, and the best damn Center in the NFL GuyCheck.

SWB, my point exactly. If there is only one scout for the entire southeast, you'd think he would have his hands full with the SEC and ACC. Sure, there are lots players from small schools who have made it big in the NFL, but you'd think a limited staff would use the BCS conferences as an initial filter.

@Tiger: Yeah, when I look through lists of previous Bengals draft picks I have to have a quart of tequila handy.

@FMBTAB - I see we need the same therapy. It's amazing how many aren't with us. But there's no need for change, right?

@ The Devils Advocate

Oh, i agree it's not a good thing that we have less time/resources for our already borderline embarrassing scouting (how many people is required to be in a group before it can be called a department?) department, but just wanted to pose that side as well. Either way, we're going to be like a dislexic kid at a spelling bee at the draft.


That's the sound of another Draft full of busts. Simpson seems like the biggest of all time just because he's so new. But let's not forget that Mike Brown was in charge during the days of...hmm...Akili Smith! Dan Wilkinson! Ka-gina Carter! Reinard Wilson! Peter Warrick! So many more. And I'll bet we have most of the same scouting department from those days, too (THAT would be a sweet article--find out if we haven't changed our scouts)!

There has probably not been a team with more busts in Pro Footbal history (although the Raiders are making a sweet run at it right now). That's the whole point of this site--sure, we're 5-2 and will probably make the playoffs this year. But it won't last because a whole new wave of Jerome Simpsons is coming right around the corner.

Well all of this boils down to the rank incompetence of Roger Goodell (Jane Skinner's husband). He doesn't understand the purpose of what the NFL's about saying: that is about bringing people together...' No it's not Barney Rubble (yes, that's exactly who Goodell reminds me of), what the NFL is all about it being the supreme gathering institution to play the game of American Football and to do the best to provide such an institution with the best tools available to continue with that tradition and indeed to grow this institution. You, Barney, seem to think it is about giving JHO -- uhm, JLo and Ferguson Jenkins (aka Fergie) a minority stake in a piss poor team in Miami. Interesting, Mr, Rubble, Velly intalesting!

Did Tobin think Andre Caldwell was cute? That was a decent SEC pickup.

Yeah, isn't it amazing how the fifth round WR (I think that's where Bubba Caldwell was picked, right? Or was it fourth?) was more polished and NFL-ready than the second round WR?

Don't believe - know - if you want your prissy arguments to be taken seriously. Before being poopy-pants about all the draft picks, why don't you do some comparisons and see what percentage of draft picks stay on teams after 3-5-7-or-10 years. Compare that with 1st round/1st day picks. Take the time and do the comparisons if you want to make a point. It's easy to remember players you feel like you knew better not to take, or to wait for an injury and cry bust. See what the league trends are and then make a case. I've made the point on here before that there are several x-bengals players from the marvin lewis era that have moved on to play for play-off teams or ones that are still playing well but just signed for a lot of money on shitty teams (and that includes keiwan who plays for you know who). my personal view is that the draft is the biggest goddamn crapshoot - actually worse odds than a crapshoot - especially when drafting high and early, which unfortunately, the bengals do a lot of. we've done well, as a lot of teams do (and as hobson most recently pointed out), in the later rounds. my biggest gripe with mike brown on draft day is his incompetence when it comes to moving down and collecting more of those mid-round picks.

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    Bengals Futility - By The Numbers

    • 20 - Years since the Bengals have won a playoff game

      0 - Total number of playoff wins in Mike Brown's tenure as owner

      .359 - Bengals regular season winning percentage since Mike Brown took over as owner (115-206-1 in 20 seasons)

      29-34-1 - Record since 2005 playoff game vs Steelers

      6 - Seasons the Bengals have lost their first six games since 1991. No other team has more than two.

      0 - Teams North of Cincinnati without an indoor practice facility

      10 - Players arrested in a 14 month span from 2005-2006

      32 - Mike Brown's ranking, out of 32, of the "Best Owners in the NFL" by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated in 2007

      458,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, that Hamilton County Taxpayers paid to build PBS

      2032 - Year that Hamilton County will have finally paid off its debt on the stadium deal

      3 - Total number of non-clerical employees employed in the Bengals scouting department, lowest in the league

      747,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, paid in free agency by the Bengals from 1994 - 2005, second worst of all 28 teams in existence for the duration, behind only Arizona

      118 – Ranking, out of 118 professional teams, of the “Worst Franchises” in professional sports, as ranked by ESPN the Magazine in 2003.

      97 – Ranking, out of 98 general managers in all four major sports with three or more years of experience, of Mike Brown’s performance as a GM, as ranked by Forbes in 2007.

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