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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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October 18, 2009


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The Bengals are really getting exposed right now by the Texans offense. Absolutely no defense this entire half. Back to mediocrity is what it looks like.

And the biggest problem for the Bengals sluggish offense is 3 yards per carry Chris Benson isn't working, but Brat calls it 87 times in a row.

Leonard is inactive.

Dan Coats is the suckiest suck who ever sucked.

Can we get Coffman or even Harris in there instead of Concrete Hands Coates?

The defense went back to the old Bengals putridness we've come to expect. Need a two-TD miracle comeback now.

So far a total team effort in losing. The offense has a fumble and three 3-and-outs in the second half; the defense has stunk as bad as any Bengals defense of the dark ages.

I'm going to find a hole, grab a drink, and pray for daylight.

Awful, awful game. Thank God Ravens lost (barely), otherwise this would have been the worst Sunday ever. Is Odom gone for the season?

Couple things on that abortion of a game:

1. Coates, all I can say is, Brad St. Louis has room on his couch. Pack you're things, you're fucking cut.
2. Foschi, same to you. We should play 4 WR sets anyway.
3. Our defense got totally pants by a team that can throw. Kind of reminds me of every other Marvin Lewis team.
4. Offense has no killer instinct. We had plenty of times to put pressure on them or even out the game away, and couldn't.
5. Bratkowski, how do you have a job? Just throw it deep. I don't care if Henry and Chad are covered. Watch Bret Farve for crying out loud. Or Drew Brees. Or Peyton Manning. Single coverage does not mean the guy isn't open--it means you should throw it to him.

Where do we go from here? Bears game will say a lot. I'm not writing them off completely, but to lose at home in that fashion to a mediocre team is pretty bad. I liked their resolve before the end of the first half, but that second half was abysmal. At least we're not the Browns.

i guess the Revolution is not dead after all. Who would have thunk it! Where are those that said to shut this site down? LOL You guys will never get it!

The Bengals looked no worse today than they did for the majority of any of their wins (except last week, where they did outplay Baltimore). The same problems were rearing their heads from the coaching and execution alike. Brandon Johnson still can't tackle. Dan Coats still can't catch. Andrew Whitworth still has at least one hold per game. Receivers were running open against soft coverage. None of this is new; the only difference was the lack of a final heroic drive from Palmer. This game shouldn't really come as a surprise, if we've been paying attention. As has been stated so often, the 4 wins didn't magically make all this team's issues disappear.

Well with Odom out, maybe we can pull Jason Shirley off the practice squad and put him back on the line.

yea a practice squad player will make a difference. LOL that is like saying Coats and Foschi are real NFL football players. there is a reason he is on the practice squad and btw, he is not a DE or did you know this?

I'm hoping the TE experiment will be over and we can get something out of that draft pick last year.

Scott, you are not very bright, what TE draft pick last year? Did you mean this year in Coffman? Yea, he needs to play. Grabbing FA concussion known Utecht TE from Indy was a joke! This organization never has a clue!

Jason Shirley, our DE felon pick from last year, who is now a TE courtesy of MB's brilliant personnel meeting on Hard Knocks.

Scott, Jason Shirley was moved to Guard on the offensive line. It was Henderson (I believe) moved to TE, and he didn't make the team.

In any case, ugly but typical loss. But just like 4 wins can't and shouldn't by themselves define a squad, neither should one loss to the Texans. These are the same Bengals we've been seeing from the beginning of the season, playing the same way. The only question mark each week appears to be the win/loss column.

At least we didn't get beat as bad as the Titans, ouch..

1. Brat still sucks. Can't call a game worth jack. Where is Chris Henry all day? When he's not committing a crime he cannot be covered.

2. Tight ends that SUCK = DIRECTLY CAUSED by MIKE F-cking BROWN. They knew from preseason that they had nobody to play tight end. A COMPETENT general manager would have signed/traded for one. The trade deadline is Tuesday. Instead we had the pleasure of two sucky tight ends dropping the ball on the field. Nice.

3. Defense is improved? Could have fooled me. On trajectory to finish in the bottom half for the umpty umpth time out of the last umpty ump years.

I still predict a losing season from this bunch. Nothing has changed.

Jerome SIMPSON = HORRIBLE BUST. Nice 2nd round draft pick there.

I think Aqua Bengal looks like a photo of the Houston Texans shoving a Tiger's head in the toilet, as seen from below. Sort of like what we saw today on the field.

Sad as it is to say, I can still see the Bengals playing as poorly as they did today and beating the Bears in a week's time. Chicago's defense is porous without Urlacher (and only made worse if his back-up, Hunter Hillenmeyer, is unavailable again next week), so that should allow Bratkowski to call another awful game, but Benson to still get his 100 yards and keep the team close enough that Carson can win in the final seconds. Of course, they seem to have issues covering tight ends, but that shouldn't be a problem with our two drop monsters. I mean, our new long snapper played TE at Rutgers - can he get a look? He can't be any worse than Coates or Foschi. Also, Cutler excels at throwing picks in the red zone, which seems to be where JJoe excels at intercepting the ball. Plus, the Bears don't have a Andre Johnson (or even a Kevin Walter), so I think the secondary should rebound nicely, so long as Leon Hall doesn't have to cover Johnny Knox or Devin Hester one-on-one.

Overall, though, pretty disgusted today, mostly with Brat's awful playcalling. Running clearly isn't working, Chad catches a 50-yard bomb right before halftime, so let's come out after the half the ball? Seriously, what's up with that? I second whoever said Coates needs to be sitting on St. Louis' couch by week's end, and I think Brat should be sitting between them.


Your "shoving a tiger's head in the toilet" comment is the only thing that made me smile today. It's tough to tell where this team is headed. I think the Bears game next week says it all. They win, I think they can win 6 of 10 and grab the Wild Card. They lose, probably looking at 7-9 or 8-8. Typical Marvin territory.

But you're right about one thing: all our roster issues are directly the fault of MFB. That's why this site exists. Four wins are like a bandaid on a gaping wound--sooner or later, it's gonna bleed (just like our defense did today). Also, for the Mike Brown apologists out there, don't use the Odom/Reggie Kelly injuries as an excuse. Just don't.

Come on, you can't throw the ball deep every play. How can you say rushing isn't working? They had fewer rush attempts in this game than any other game this season. I would say they needed to run the ball more.


I can say the rushing wasn't working because their premiere back, Cedric Benson, averaged 2.75 yards per carry today. That's not going to win any games, especially with the Bengals playing from behind (or tied) for the duration of the game. If they could've managed the 7-0 or 14-7 leads that the Texans did, then perhaps I wouldn't be so critical, but running the ball when you're behind is like trying to qualify for the Olympics in sprinting with your shoes untied - you're just asking to lose. Of course, throwing to TEs didn't work any better, so why attempt passes to wide receivers? Just keep running to set up third and 7s or third and 8s, then throw to the tight ends so that they can drop or fumble the ball. Excellently called game offensively, absolutely.

WhoDeyFans, look at Benson's average. 2.75 ypc is pretty terrible. His decent outing last week against the Ravens was bested today by Adrian Peterson (though that's not surprising considering how talented AP is): more yards on less carries against that same vaunted Ravens run defense.

I'm not saying Benson isn't a good rusher, but the whole "league leader" was always misleading considering the volume of carries he was getting. He has the ability to break off some nice looking 10+ yard gains, but when he's not doing that he's not doing much of anything most of the time. Do I blame Benson? Not really - I blame the playcalling. Everyone knows what's coming on 2nd and 9, and it's almost always stuffed. Look at how the Bengals got their points: they threw the ball and got in position. This is what was working. To say Ced needed more than 16 carries is Bratkowski logic (and who knows? Maybe that's the excuse he makes, that they didn't "establish" the run game enough). If you gave him 11 more touches, sure he might have made them look quite good. But the way the Texans were shutting it down, it's more likely you'd have seen a final stat line like 27 for 68. That's a waste of plays.

Besides, they got down two scores in the fourth quarter. And they DID come out and try to run it. A draw to Benson. The crowd (rightfully) booed. The play failed. Fire Bratkowski.

One reason to suspect that Brat's playcalling is responsible is the almost comically freakish stat that about half their points have been scored in the 2-minute drill. Why can't they just use that offense all the time? Where is Chris Henry? Where is Bernard Scott? They spread the ball to four guys if you don't count the stone hands tight ends.

Ced Benson has way too many plays that go for almost no yardage. Unlike Barry Sanders he doesn't make up for this fact by taking it 80 yards to the house a few times per year (doesn't have nearly that kind of breakaway). They badly needed HippopotaSmith to be in camp early and take a starting OT job. Instead: holdout, broken foot, nothing yet.

This year's draft is really looking unimpressive because of the Hippo's absense and the fact that even on a team with two sucky tight ends Chase Coffman hasn't managed to be active for game days. He must suck even more.

And reviewing this year's draft makes you want to throw up when you look at all the Marvin Lewis drafts put together.

Q: How many Pro Bowlers apart from Carson Palmer have been drafted in the Marvin Lewis era?

A: Zero. (* = one if you count Steinbach's appearance as a Brown, which then makes Mike Brown look even more Moronic for letting go the only other Pro Bowler Lewis drafted in 7 drafts)

How many players remain from Marvin's drafts?
2003 - 3, Carson Palmer plus Kooistra doesn't do much and J Johnson is fat.
2004 - 1, Robert Geathers, that's it.
2005 - 2, Chris Henry and Fanene
2006 - 3 starters, plus 1 Frostee Rucker, but again zero pro bowlers
2007 - Leon Hall and Ndukwe
2008 - A lot of guys are on the roster, but Simpson never plays and none of the other guys looks like an All Pro. Pat Sims is probably the best of the bunch, which ain't saying much.

You have to ask yourself, if you were honest, how "Marvin's Team" has only one great Marvin-drafted player (and how could that have been messed up since Carson Palmer was the consensus #1 pick)

No one said this team was the best in the league. The league is talented, and no matter which team it is, they can compete with the other teams. We are winning games and we will lose some too. Specifically yesterday, you can't say this was a mediocre team and then lament that we got exposed by a team that can throw. Which are they then? The answer is the Texans have a pretty damn good offense with fast, athletic players. For some ridiculous reason, none of you will let yourself realize that injuries will kill any momentum you have. Don't care what you say about how good teams overcome and on and on. Don't care if you think Peko and Odom are scrubs (they're not). We lost two quality pieces at the point of attack. For all intents and purposes, we have two rookies at linebacker (Rivers missed a good chunk last year). They have miles of potential, but they're not going to make all the plays and tackles. Our corners are well above decent and average. No idea why you dump on Leon Hall all the time. He'll get beat from time to time (it's not epidemic). My observation is that too often, the safties and corners would prefer to go for the big hit or strip than make a solid wrap-up. (that can be changed with focusing on technique, but it doesn't mean they're not talented).

This defense is much improved, and there's no way you can be credible if you deny that. Not only are they much improved, but they're good. Maybe not great. Not proven of a long track record. Lacks total consistency, but I believe they are good.

The offense is more troubling. Everyone on here is clued in on Brat's ineptitude. The line is playing much better than anyone thought - no way you can deny that. Carson has not been slaughtered or anything close to it. The run game would be better with better play calling and schemes and diversity (with players too - why have scott if you're not going to use him?) The passing game is maddening. i believe there is something not right with carson and there's been something off for quite a while. not physically, but something. to me, he checks down way too quickly, throws the worst out route i've ever seen, overthrows and leaves receivers hung out to dry across the middle, and has yet to lead a receiver correctly when they're wide open on go routes (chris henry last week, chad this week). are there problems with the way our receivers run routes? i would say so from time to time. are there drops - clearly, but often those passes are short of the markers anyway. side beef - worst decision ever (and there were plenty of people on here that felt the other way), but worst decision ever to not pay housh a little more (i get it if it was housh that was dead bent on leaving no matter what), but if it could have gotten done for just a little more, there's no price you can put on reliability, familiarity, and consistency. Finished with the rambling, but the offense if troubling, first and foremost, with the playcalling.

like it or not, we've beaten good teams (i'm less impressed with ced's 100 yards against the ravens as i am with the d's effort against their o. that's a team that can throw it, and we shut it down. as well as the pack, and now it's been proven, denver.) like it or not, we will lose to inferior talent (almost the browns and texans). did anyone see yesterday that good teams lost to more inferior teams (phily, the jets)? and really good teams looked bad at times (the giants, the ravens). the mood swings from week to week are not worth it. i'm excited to see the rest of the season and i have optimism for it.

and one more thing - chase, get a base. and get in the goddamn game.

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