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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;


    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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I agree that the sooner he signs the better, missing any of training camp, especially as rookie, hurts.

As for the Hippopatasmith thing, I guess i'm not quite understanding it. Isnt our OL supposed to be big? We arent built with speed like the Colts.

Most of the offensive line stinks. The running backs stink. Most of the TE's and receivers stink. Let's just save ourselves the hassle and only field Palmer, Williams, Kelly and Coles, because everyone else stinks anyway.

Good grief.

A lottery pick? Which sport is this?

You're missing the entire point. You all piss and moan that the line is re-worked and unproven and that it is/will be worse than last year. Those are legit concerns but there is another way to look at it. Since business metaphors are so commonly used on this site, I'll finally use one: If you were a sales manager and you had your worse numbers ever last year, wouldn't you clean house, bring in fresh blood and move things around to attempt make it better? I know that I would. Stagnation wouldn't have been productive at all. They had their worst year offensively in franchise history in 2008, mostly due to the line play. There's absolutely no way they'll be worse or as bad this year. Most of these guys who are looking at a starting position on the line have been drafted in rounds 1-4. That usually means those guys can play football. They used the #6 overall pick on an O-Lineman (arguably the best in the draft) as well as their 4th round pick on a position of major need. Yes, they need to sign both in a timely manner. You also somehow equated Luigs, a fourth round pick, to Ghiacuic who was also a fourth round center in a previous article. Not really a fair comparison seeing as how Luigs hasn't played a snap yet. Do you know who else was a fourth round Center? Jason Brown, the uber-coveted free-agent Center that everyone wanted the Bengals to pick up (myself included). Why didn't you make that comparison? Luigs had a much more decorated college career than Ghiacuic had and seems that he could be serviceable at the position. You can't just assume that he won't be able to hold up against the Steelers or Ravens without him even taking a snap. Collins and Livings flashed last year as well, but not enough to say "They're the guys!". They've replaced aging, injured lineman with younger and more athletic albeit UNPROVEN players. Am I sketchy on the O-Line situation this year? Yeah, but we won't know how they really are until preseason and the first couple of weeks of the season. It's way too presumptive to just write them off as terrible right now, though the current situation makes me a little nervous. Sly's right, they cannot let Andre holdout. I agree, Sly, the O-Line's success will hang on Andre, Whit and whoever the Center is.


You're the worst.

Hahaha awesome.

BengalAnthony13, that made entirely too much sense.

Also, if people want to point to the 2006 game in Indy to show that Whit is a slow LT, that's dated and less-than-convincing evidence to build on. You can't forget that the Bengals were running well on the Colts until Big Willie's knee gave out. When Andrews came in, he got schooled by Robert Mathis as much as Whit got schooled by Freeney. And how many rookies would you give a legitimate shot against Freeney in his prime? LT isn't brand new to Whit. He's got tenacity and two more seasons of savvy since then. I'll reserve judgement on him until we see him play some real games.

I also think that being lost in all of this hand-wringing over the O-line is the slow transformation of the Bengals into a defense-oriented team. (Isn't that why Marvin was brought in here?) That doesn't negate the need for a decent O-line, but a strong defense takes some of the pressure off of the offense. IF (repeat, IF) the defense plays up to its potential, the Bengals will be able to win a number of games with 17-20 points instead of needing 30+ every week to have a shot. Look at Pittsburgh last year. They were said to have one of the worst O-lines in the NFL, but we have to admit that the team did OK anyway.

Just to be clear for those who will want to misrepresent me: I'm not saying the O-line is unimportant, but that the play of the defense will have a greater bearing on any success in 2009 than the O-line will.

---"ready" to start last year. But if they couldn't prove themselves to better than Ghiuacic then I'm not going to put any faith in them to be any better now.---

Cook was going to replace guycheck but was injured in the warmups...

---Luigs is a rookie stepping into a position where people like Casey Hampton and Ngata will be lining up to consume whatever gets in their way. Bobbie's a rock, but I don't like how on the roster he's listed as a G/C---

This is the nfl have you been watching long? Alot of teams do it and it works out fine our own beloved Rich Braham was a center in college played guard for several years and then went back to Center.....

--- Whit got schooled by Freeney. ---

Best passrusher vs a rookie LT it's going to happen,W Whitworth may not be lights out in passprotection,but I think he'll be serviceable enough if the rest of the line can Gel....

PS,Once again I'm glad Smith is on the right RUN THE BALL RUN IT HARD RUN IT OFTEN.....Let Big fella cream some little fellas.

"the play of the defense will have a greater bearing on any success in 2009"

Really, because I'm pretty sure last year we finished 12th in defense and look how that turned out. Oh that's right, we are getting Carson back though. So when Carson gets hurt again because our offensive line is inexperienced it will somehow be o.k.(even if our defense cracks the top 10)? I don't mind the "trying something" different, I'm just not sold on the O-line being better THIS YEAR! And the Pittsburgh analogy doesn't work because...quite frankly we are no Pittsburgh. The Patriots were supposed to be moderate at best when their star quarterback was out for the year. That didn't happen because the Patriots are a solid organization that have quality backups waiting to plug into their fine system and can easily adapt. Same goes for the Steelers. What evidence would tell you the same could be said about our Bengies? In the Bengals Organization, we can't afford to have injuries because we (historically speaking) don't have the quality backups and a system that would allow it.

The Ravens are converting former tackle David Hale to center.
Hale, last year's fourth-round pick, is working with the second team behind Matt Birk

Yes because other nfl teams don't move players...Because the Patriots & Steelers two of the most [b]SUCCESSFUL[/b] Franchises in the past 10 years never move players out of position right?????? guys who are making a big deal about Andre going to RT,Luigs getting time at guard & Maualuga to SLB (((Until he learns the system and gets experiance))) need do some freaking research before you cry.

braveduck, excuse me for trying to be rational. Clearly we should follow your line of thinking to it's logical end... call Goodell's office and forfeit all games for 2009 so that we can save Carson since this O-line couldn't block pre-schoolers. Let us all know who the Bengals should be picking with the first pick in the 2010 draft.

Getting back on topic, I am pessimistic the Bengals will sign Smith until the pre-season is almost over. MikeyBoy is the cheapest of the cheap and Smith's agent is just now coming on board...again. Besides that, Smith most likely doesn't want to go to training camp anyway. Can you say Michael Strahan?

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      118 – Ranking, out of 118 professional teams, of the “Worst Franchises” in professional sports, as ranked by ESPN the Magazine in 2003.

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