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Who Dey Revolution Manifesto

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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;

    Introduction

    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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Great addition--he'll bring a presence. Roy, Rey, Keith, Tank...if we had this defense in 2005 we would have been unstoppable. It's these types of players that bring the swagger needed to win the two Steeler games each season.

Actually, those same 2 Steelers games are the only 2 games I want to see him play in, and maybe only the first one if he, Keith Rivers, or Rey can get the job done. I just wonder which one is going to end Hinmes Ward's season this year - Keith, Roy, Rey, or maybe Marvin. We've got the hitters to do it, and that'd certainly give us back the swagger.

Mike Brown is still an asshole. It's going to take a lot more than one good draft and signing a decent? free agent to make me think that after 18 years of bullshit we now have a new philosophy at PBS.

Hey PAl- try to be a little optimistic. Post your depression bullshit in the post about how bad the owner is. That highlight reel seriously gave me an erection. Used the right way that guy will be the man.

This is good news for the run D not so much the pass but anywhooo...Who loses there job if Roy makes the team (I only say this because he has been hurt and we do have bad luck at FA safties..Dex Jackson, Louis Oliver etc).

hey Bill dont look at his shit dirt hits from 5 years ago look at his terrible pass coverage that is not needed he will bring nothing but blown coverage and penalties, yes you should be optimistic but these singings dont mean shit if you can't coach these players and manage them in a game well enough to put them in at the right times and give players like cory lynch who i think is great a chance to fucking play. mike browns a dick and dont let that leave your mind for a single second

chillllll win'ston...matt - calm yourself. we all know mike brown's a little bitch. let's look at what we got; might as well start this kind of rambling if this site's going to go with the pitchy chin music and tweets from now on....

sample roster starting with what i argue is an improved d that was on it's way up.

25 spots on D:

4 DT's - Peko, Tank, Sims, Shirley
5 DE's - Geathers, Odom, Johnson, Rucker, Fanene (I like that dude when he's in)

5 LB's - Dhani, Rey, Rivers, Jeanty, Johnson

4 CB's - Hall, Joseph, Jones, Castille
6 S's - Ndukwe, White, Crocker, Williams, Hybert, Lynch (all these guys can play
when used properly)

1 extra spot - Harris or Draft pick at DT, Blackenstock or Mays at LB, Trent at CB

This is pretty much the same break down as last year, but they went with 6 LB's and only 4 DE's. Shouldn't be a problem if they are using Johnson at both.

We have all injured players coming back without any reported delays. We have another year of experience in general and with the new system/coach (good for Sims, Rivers, Ndukwe, White). Better chemistry in the locker room. A full year with a decent guy like Crocker. Improvements over Dexter and Thorton with Williams and Tank. Exciting draft picks to watch. In theory, the upgrade in tackle play should help the DE's in pass rush, and the stouter LB/S play should help against the run. When was the last time you had this many reasons to be excited over a Bengal's D?

ok, 25 spots on Offense:

2 QB's - Palmer, O'Sullivan (help me out - 3rd string doesn't take a roster spot?)

2 C's - Cook, Lugeis (or however you spell his name)
3 G's - Whitworth, Williams, Livings
4 T's - Smith, Collins, Kooistra, Roland

3 TE's - Kelly, Utecht, Coffman

1 FB - The Beast Pressley (my thoughts later)

3 RB - Benson, Samoan draft pick, Scott (ibid)

6 WR's - Chaddy, Coles, Henry, Caldwell, Simpson, Cosby

1 extra spot - another lineman?, Jeremi Johnson, Watson, James Johnson, DeeDee, Chatman, 7th rd. drat pick WR...

This is pretty much the breakdown they had last year. The line gets shuffled with how you allocate the G's and T's, but the backups can move around. If we really want to run the ball, especially on short yardage (no more passing on 3rd and less than 3!), then I say we go with the big dog at FB AND keep the Samoan kid as one of the 3 RB's. He carried the ball as a reg. back in college and with the 2 of them stacked, they should be able to wreck some shit. I'm pulling for Scott as a speedster, but if it's somebody else like James Johnson or DeeDee, so be it. I'll pull for Cosby as the last receiver too for no reason in particular - he sat beside Erin Andrews is good enough for me (and might return something).

It would be nice to have at least some solid veteran backup on the line. But again, we're healthy on Offense with no delays to speak of. Carson has lost his primary option, but Coles is a legit replacement and if the TE kid works out, Henry applies himself, and the two from last year show any signs of progress, he'll have plenty to choose from. (I'm just going to assume he'll stay on his feet and Chaddy still likes him and likes to play football....you can tear into that as you will.)

I'm excited as a lot of you are too. That does not mean I'm going to give Mike Brown a dime. I don't buy the Sunday Ticket package. I don't go to the games. I watch on tv or listen on the radio, and as much as I am dying to, I'm not buying a Rey jersey. Mike Brown needs to be shit on. I'll only go to the Superbowl and even then, I'll protest his punk ass. I'm still completely excited for this season. We don't have a damn thing to lose.

oh yeah...and we've definitely upgraded punter.

Damn. Maybe the site is working. Maybe Mike Brown does Google. Maybe he is a big fan of the site.

Ha!

One truth is that if 31 other teams weren't interested in this guy then there is some meat behind the "coverage" issues.

However it's a decent pick up. First and second down player and then off the field in obvious coverage situations.

Hey one good thing is that Hall won't be alone in getting beat in coverage anymore!

Lets just hope that this off season'e apparent "blind luck" gives us a team to cheer for in spite of the piss poor organization behind it.

I'm really starting to like Mike Zimmer. There have been some noticeable positives since his arrival.

ok, apparently the 3rd string QB does take a spot on the 53 man roster, so that's baby Palmer or whoever and they take the extra Offensive spot. Also, 8 of the players mentioned won't get to dress on a particular game-day, so point taken about some signings taking away chances at playing time for someone like Lynch.

btw's if you believe the reports, 31 other teams didn't pass on Williams. In fact, it's said he turned down more money to come here (shhh. a shock to some of you nay-sayers i know). as i've said in the past, there's something to be said for playing where you feel comfortable, and perhaps williams values playing with zimmer over cash. i'm tired of seeing you all beat that stupid cliche into the ground that "31 other teams passed on somebody".... you never have any evidence of that, so cut the fucking shit.

votasi - a couple minor notes.

Corey Mays is a Chief. Fui Vakapuna was drafted as a fullback, not as a tailback. That leaves Benson, Watson, Johnson, Dorsey, and Scott at RB. We tend to keep three, so I'm guessing Dorsey and Johnson get the practice squad bump. Well, one of them will. One will be waived.

3rd QB is Jordan Palmer, and that does occupy a roster spot.

mockenrue, thanks for keeping tabs on mays for me.

i did hit the follow-up above on the jordan palmer issue.

the running backs/whole idea of the comment was to present what i consider a quality/exciting roster. as i mentioned, vakapuna has played RB in college, and if you combine his skills there with pressley, then i contend you've got a smash mouth dimension we've never had before. then you still have benson and scott for the other two RB spots. if not, then you take the usual 1 FB and then go with the tried and sort-of-true Watson in you're opinion.

This is the more interesting worthless dialogue i like to see on this site if we're going to have any at all.

I am tempted to buy into the hype, but then I think about our 3 critical weaknesses from last year:

1. Inability to rush the QB
2. Poor offensive line play/play calling (Bratkowksi)
3. Mike Brown

I'm not trying to be funny with #3. It is a stone-cold fact that Mike Brown is a loser. Undeniable, undebatable. As for #1 and #2--did we improve? You could make a (very) weak argument that we might have improved our pass rush with Maualuga, or say something like, "Well, with another year under Zimmer, our D should be 'the tits'...is that a squirrel over there, I'm easily distracted."

As for #2, let me point this out: we have lost 4 out of 5 of our starting O-lineman since our 2005 glory days. We may start two rookies this year. If anything, this line is worse. And, we still have Shitkowski at the helm. So, don't be shocked when this team goes 6-10.

another past-his-prime free agent that every other team in the league passed on. been there... seen that... then i took some pictures... mailed them to your mom... she thought it was hot and totally had sex on my dong.

has Mike Brown ever brought in a free agent (other than Deltha's lucky year) who really made a big difference? Adams? Odom? Benson? Jackson? you can't spell upgrade with Williams. unless you spell upgrade with two D's... for a double dose of heavy hitting. if he takes off heath miller's dome, then its cool. otherwise... YAWN.

Please put down the kool-aid for a second everyone. Having been forced to watch Cowboys games Sunday after Sunday living in TX, I can tell you this is a very very poor mans David Fulcher. You get rid of the INT's Fulch had, minus the "speed" and add the missed tackles you have Roy Williams. Congrats to us all we have a washed up, slow, and overall terrible NFL player. Hopefully he does bring something to the locker room because he is bringing NOTHING to the field.

About Roy Williams. I haven't read any other posts...however I have lived in Dallas for the past few years and watched Roy Williams play. He is over the hill and no good. He was brought up to be a run stopping safety and deliver big hits, however he gets burned (and burned bad) with no pass coverage, which happens at least 3 or 4 times a game. I am in full support of what ejkatx said in his post.

What story says he turned down more money to come here? The story on Bengals.com? Mike Brown's PR network?

If he is here then one can assume that he had no other choice. Evidence = short term, reported one year deal that is incentive laden.

The evidence that 31 other teams passed on him IS that he is here and you think that he chose to play for less money because of a "fit"? Show me evidence of someone that chose to comes to the Bengals for less money because he would rather?

If Gold Star offered you a 50 cent an hour raise over the minimum that you are making at your current job cooking wieners at Skyline are you telling me that you would stay because you like the "fit" of the wieners at Gold Star?

You probably do like the "fit" of those wieners. Nevermind.

It's a job. And even millionaires will take the best one possible in this economy. Bottom line is read what Dallas fans wrote about him. The evidence suggests that a team who is clearly committed to winning a championship felt they were better off without him. He didn't "fit" with a team that try's their best to win a SUPER BOWL.

Either way it's a solid pick up and he's here for two reasons. He'll play cheap and Mike Brown needs to do something to sell tickets. That's why Bengals.com will be touting his "feared hitter" status and multiple pro bowl appearances, not his coverage issues.

BTW Deltha was a trade not a free agent signing.

Furthermore, where do washed up veterans, particularly in the secondary cash in late in their careers?

The evidence is clear it would be in Oakland. If undead Al wouldn't pay the guy what makes you think he chose us due to our "fit" 2.5 million "fits" a lot better in your pocket that 2.0 million. Get it?

Additionally, where do veteran players who still have value go for less money because they like the "fit" and want to win.

The evidence is clear that it would be New England.

If his agent couldn't get the Pats to sign him cheap for the purpose of winning, or get him to Oakland for the purpose of getting paid......... well then you end up in Cincy.

BTW even Al Davis' Raiders have a better track record for winning or trying to win than Mr. Williams' current employer Mike Brown.

He's here because he had to be.

I'm glad. I hope he can dish out a couple of bone jarring hits............... on first or second down.

Hey Bill,

Take your Kool Aide buying, let me see, how did you put it, "bullshit" to Bengals.com. Mikey is waiting for guys like you. On your way there make sure that you renew your season tickets and buy a Roy Williams jersey while your at it. This site is not for gullible fans like you. It's for fans who want a REAL change in how Mikey operates the team. We, the taxpayers who afford him the luxury of making millions of dollars while making very little effort into providing a legitimate, competitive, NFL team are sick of him screwing us. So, keep it up. Mikey will love you for it.

Oh, and another thing Bill. If your erection lasts longer than 4 hours, see your doctor and lay of the Viagra.

you nancy boys have the weakest sarcasm one can hope for from some hamilton county g.o.p. hicks. what's with the viagra garbage? and for the guy who likes to "fit" his foot in his own mouth, go back and look at your little 3-way analogy. maybe you can "fit" some literacy classes in there while you're at it. at least try to get your own put-down to make some semblance of sense.

this site is for whoever wants to be here. the comments are open to the public. and still - nobody has a shred of evidence that every player we sign had no other options for coming here. just chubby-gut feelings. btw's - i don't think the cowboys have been behaving like a team that wants to win anything lately. of course they claim they do, but i wouldn't take their recent leadership either. and when other teams sign players the bengals cut - do you say, "what a fucking joke their team is - even the bengals passed on a guy like that!" or is it always a bengals fuck-up and in those instances, the bengals should have known when to hold 'em?

don't be surprised if this team goes 11-5.

I'm excited about this signing. While his pass coverage isn't top notch, I am looking for Roy to make some fierce hits on guys named Fast Willie, Big Ben, and Smilin' Hines.

Our defense looks like something that may actually be feared in the coming season.

votasi, you should have first read Bill's post before your weak attempt at a coherent post. I find it hilarious after reading yours that you would lecture me on literacy and making sense. "Hamilton county GOP hicks", what the hell does that have to do with anything? Anyways, get off the internet and go to class, 3rd grade is very important.

SHUT UP WITH THE "KOOL-AID" REFERENCES!! My God, that is the dumbest cliche ever. Nobody knows how they'll be this year, except that we can all agree that they will be better than last year. Let those who like this offseason and think that they'll be good this year think it, and let the cynics who say "They'll never be good, no matter what!", keep pissing and moaning. Ridiculous. This blog should be about bashing the Steelers and their Douchebag fans instead of fellow Bengals fans. Good lord, I'd hate to know any of you in person.

for all you idiots that recycle things you read on the net.

"no offensive line can't be good with two rookies"
- Denver last year, 2 rookie starters, best line in football.

"31 other teams passed on him"
- 31 other teams wouldn't give him a 1 year deal to allow him to be a FA in an uncapped season.

"we improved our pass rush with Maualuga"
- Seriously? Rey improved the rush more than Tank or Johnson? Do you watch football?

You know what you don't need any sort of brain to say? Mike Brown sucks...

Pal and Brian your additions to the comments make everyone dumber. Sex with moms and 3rd grade educations. Yeah you guys are the brains here....

He can hit, we don't have that. He was a pro bowl performer in our defensive coordinators system. He isn't making a huge salary. My guess is zimmer is not going to ask him to cover receivers because unlike Bratkowski Zimmer has a scheme that works and he can coach. I like the signing and see more of an upside than a downside.

This blog was started to try to bring attention to how incompetent Mike Brown was at running the Bengals. It was bringing to light(is that cliche OK?) the total arrogance,stupidity,and absolute failure that this man and his family have been at running an NFL football team. What has he done? Given us the privilege of watching his failure of a team every Sunday? This site was trying to get Brown to at the very least hire a GM that would put this embarassing franchise on the right path. We fans and the city as a whole deserve more than what he has given back after 18 years of way much too loyal fan support for this product. So, now for some reason we are supposed to think that Mike Brown has changed his ways, after 19 years? He has no track record of ever winning. There are other websites that are for posting your unfounded optimism about the Bengals. I'm not saying that you can't express it here but let's not forget what the original purpose of this blog was.

He came here mostly because of his relationship with Zimmer, who coached him to 5 pro bowls. I dont really understand how a pick up of a player who went to five pro bowls in seven years and knows how Zimmer runs a defense isnt a good pick up.

Mhlit1980 man i know it is hard to believe but if you watched his last years in dallas you wouldn't believe how much worse he has gotten

If Ndukwe can stay healthy and we can rotate Williams and Crocker in and out our Safety position will be really good this year... please... don't let Marvin White play.


Big hits and horrible pass protection...the fun never ends!

Now that deserves a demolished wall, and an "OH YEAH!!!" !!!


You think he can do it while holding a pitcher-full, including ice cubes?

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