20 - Years since the Bengals have won a playoff game
0 - Total number of playoff wins in Mike Brown's tenure as owner
.359 - Bengals regular season winning percentage since Mike Brown took over as owner (115-206-1 in 20 seasons)
29-34-1 - Record since 2005 playoff game vs Steelers
6 - Seasons the Bengals have lost their first six games since 1991. No other team has more than two.
0 - Teams North of Cincinnati without an indoor practice facility
10 - Players arrested in a 14 month span from 2005-2006
32 - Mike Brown's ranking, out of 32, of the "Best Owners in the NFL" by Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated in 2007
458,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, that Hamilton County Taxpayers paid to build PBS
2032 - Year that Hamilton County will have finally paid off its debt on the stadium deal
3 - Total number of non-clerical employees employed in the Bengals scouting department, lowest in the league
747,000,000 - Amount, in dollars, paid in free agency by the Bengals from 1994 - 2005, second worst of all 28 teams in existence for the duration, behind only Arizona
118 – Ranking, out of 118 professional teams, of the “Worst Franchises” in professional sports, as ranked by ESPN the Magazine in 2003.
97 – Ranking, out of 98 general managers in all four major sports with three or more years of experience, of Mike Brown’s performance as a GM, as ranked by Forbes in 2007.
See why winning those couple games at the end of last year does to you!! F'N A!!! so instead of being in the top 5 in the draft we win our last couple games for no purpose whatsover and now we are screwed with uncertainty as usual.
Posted by: YES | April 16, 2009 at 04:33 PM
Everyone is saying the exact same thing when it comes to the draft. The Bengals are going to have to take the 3rd best OT and move on. Whether Mayock, Kiper, or the pharmacist believe it is a reach or not is really irrelevant. The bottom line is that is their need and the BPAs there don't come close to matching a need. What I would love is to hear one of these experts say why Andre Smith or Michael Oher is definitively better than the other. No one seems to want to touch that one. Also is Orakpo more valuable then these two??
WDR why don't you guys go out on a limb and make a mock draft? Who and where do you the Bengals should pick?
Posted by: Matt | April 16, 2009 at 04:37 PM
I don't know why everyone makes such a big about the NFL draft. I've never really thought it was that important. I mean, the only reason I even go is for the free crab cakes.
Posted by: Mike Brown | April 16, 2009 at 04:41 PM
The answer to everyone's question: Just let your time run out without turning in a card. Move on down the line until you find your pick. Sure it won't be fun trying to figure out which slot to pay them for, but who cares?, they're just going to hold out anyway.
As for being the "cheap" way out...would you expect anything different from this club?
Posted by: Ray | April 16, 2009 at 05:46 PM
Hey Yes,
You play to win the game
Posted by: Matt | April 16, 2009 at 11:16 PM
The Bengals were 28th in kickoff effectiveness in 2008 according to NFL.COM and had a woeful 8 touchbacks. They need to build up their kicking and/or punting depth by picking up their own version of Carolina's Rhys Lloyd (30 touchbacks).
1st round: Sandro DeAngelis (Calgary Stampeders) 2008 Grey Cup's Most Outstanding Canadian.
2nd round: Pat McAfee (West Virginia-punter) will confuse opponent's return teams with odd rugby-style kicks.
3rd round: Sam Swank (Wake Forest-kicker/punter combo)--human buy one get one free coupon.
The defense will be top 10 for sure with opposing offenses backed up deep in their own territory. Plus, without slotting to worry about, think of the money to be saved!
Posted by: runpassorBOOT | April 17, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Agreed that you play to win, but my god we pick a terrible time of the season to start wanting it. I mean Jesus Christ seriously? Get a really good draft pick or pick up your level of play even though its pointless?? Um yeah ok Bengals. And runpassorBOOT my God I hope you're joking. Seems like you are.
Also, will someone assuage my recent fears that the Bengals are moving out of Cincinnati soon? There's just something about it all, if Mike Brown really does start listening, will he invest the money for a winner, or move to a city that is crazy for an NFL team, no matter what like San Jose or OK City? Just a thought...
Posted by: Ryan Smith | April 17, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Ryan Smith,
Next comment can you work in a few more "Gods" or "Jesus" references?
Posted by: Gambling Fool | April 17, 2009 at 09:33 AM
If they were not playing to win those last games we'd be up in arms about that too. I'm sorry can't support tanking and I thought it gave some of the young guys playing time. Wish they had started the season like that, but certainly am not going to fault them for it.
They should use the #1 pick on OT, but you know these guys -- probably will select best looking athlete.
Posted by: T | April 17, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Matt-
I think Yes is being sarcastic, sure everyone knows you win to to play the game, but ultimately you play to win a championship and regardless of whether we won those last few games or not, we werent making the playoffs and now we are in a bind in the draft...
Posted by: Jordan | April 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Hey guys,
The "play to win the game" reference was a Herm Edwards post game meltdown reference. I don't think most people are really getting it as far as the draft. No one wants to be in the top ten. Let alone top six. No one wants to pay unproven players top money. If the bengals wanted to be guaranteed that shiny new OT they could hop up to where KC is pretty easily. The point analysts are making is there is not a lot of difference between Oher and Jason Smith. One is a top two pick and the other is a top fifteen pick. So really it comes down to who you want to reach for.
You guys don't make a lot of sense. If we won six games we clearly would be out of the playoff race, but would be picking in the teens. Should they not try to win six games? Because clearly you won't make the playoff that way and you aren't going to get a top five pick. So Herm is right you play to win. I am much happier the Bengals won four games last year. There were analysts midseason who really thought the Bengals and Lions were going 0-16. So yeah we may not get the two pint stance guy or the guy who had is knee cap completely dislocated. But hey we will probably get the guy with bigger boob than most of our gfs or the guy who had a sweet book written about him. I think I would reach just so the Micheal Oher story is in our city.
Posted by: Matt | April 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Ryan, are you working for the Bengals? I wouldn't doubt that Mikey would try to start a rumor that he might just pick up and leave if we don't start realizing that we should just be grateful to him for bringing us the NFL experience. Who knows, Bobby Bedinghaus may have snuck in a clause that allows Mikey to get out of the lease if he "FEELS" unappreciated. Start watching out for the midnight moving trucks.
Posted by: PAl | April 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Cincinnati would be better off if the Bengals moved.
Posted by: BenzooPeesOnMikeBrown | April 18, 2009 at 09:56 PM
Haha had I been working for the Bengals, this site would no longer exist. I'd probably force myself to spike Mikey's morning prune juice or bran muffin. It's just frightening more and more to me that if he actually does listen to "us", he could easily tell us to screw off and move the team. He is just that much of a dick. And while I hate him, I love the Bengals and would hate to see them move. I don't know, idle pandering I suppose but that's my ultimate fear and seeing as how he is related to Satan in some manner, I'm sure he could do it (and has thought of it).
And Jesus Allah Buddha God Confucius Christ Gambling Fool. I think I can.
Posted by: Ryan Smith | April 20, 2009 at 12:35 AM
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