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    IN THIS TIME of perpetual Cincinnati Bengals incompetence and futility, with zero playoff wins in the nineteen seasons since the WhoDeyRevolution Godfather, Paul Brown, passed away in 1991 and handed the team to his fortunate son, the Despot, Mike Brown;

    Introduction

    WE, the members of the Who Dey Revolution, in our fervent dedication to the Cincinnati Bengals and fanatical desire to transform our hometown team into perpetual Super Bowl contenders, call for a popular revolution of fans to demand comprehensive reform to the managerial decisions and approach of Cincinnati Bengals ownership, management, staff and players, and hereby call for the adoption of the following Who Dey Revolution Manifesto:

    Manifesto Demands

    THAT the Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Marvin Lewis, along with every other member of the Bengals management, staff and personnel, state publicly to all Bengals fans, “I will do everything in my power to help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl;”

    THAT Mike Brown will hire a general manager, drastically expand the scouting department and relinquish all control of player personnel;

    THAT all training, rehabilitation and medical facilities are considered best-in-class compared to other NFL teams;

    THAT the management fill the team only with players who fit the system, both mentally and physically, and are not reluctant to makes changes to player personnel when needed, regardless of cost or loyalty concerns;

    THAT offensive and defensive line depth is considered the top priority for all player personnel decisions;

    THAT all decisions made by ownership, management, staff and players, both on and off the field, are judged only by this criterion: “Does this help the Cincinnati Bengals win a Super Bowl?”

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I just want to open this up for discussion. I want to know how people feel about Leon Hall. I thought that he was a decent pick (when we couldn't get Revis) based on his college career. The first year was mediocre at best, but he was a rookie, so I let it slide. But I actually think he's gotten slightly worse since then. I've been to all but 1 of the last 2 season's home games, and I can't count the amount of times that he was either burned or WOULDN'T TURN AROUND to see the ball. It was obvious that opposing quarterbacks would try to exploit this. But, that said, it seems that the media and fans like him. What's the deal?! Is it just because of the few picks he had against abysmal offenses toward the end of the season? I do know that he'd be better if we had an effective pass rush, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Thoughts?

I think Leon Hall is turning out to be a decent pick(or a really good one if you are Mike Brown.) He definitely struggled his rookie season and the beginning of this past season, but I thought he really turned the corner the last half of this season. When Joseph got injured, Hall had to guard the opposing team's best WR and did a pretty good job. I think fans also like Hall because he can actually tackle someone. That's a good trait to have if you are a defensive player, although the Bengals haven't seemed to recognize the fact that it helps when your defensive players tackle someone.

First, thoughts on the article. I agree we need to improve, mostly with the front 4. However, when looking at the stats I noticed we were 8th in plays from scrimage. That tells me the defense was on the field way to much. (also watching the games tells me this) The only team that finished with a higher ranking and more plays from scrimage was the Titans. Part of the reason we faired so well in the last three games was because the offense was sustaining drives and the defense got to rest a bit. (I'll give you the fact the teams sucked too.) My point is, bash Mike Brown, bash the lack of an O line, but give the defense credit for what it had to go through this season.

In regards to Leon Hall...I'm in the middle. On one hand I've seen him make some great reads and consequently good plays on the ball. I have also seen him jump the first move in a double move and get burned trying to make a play. On the plus side he likes contact and hitting people and can tackle well. On the negative side, he sometimes goes for the big hit and doesn't wrap up leading to extra yardage. Overall, I'd say he is a 6 or 7 out of 10. He is agressive and plays fast. That, plus inexperience, can lead to mistakes, but also big plays. If you cut him some slack for being a rookie, it shouldn't change in his 2nd season. He hasn't gotten worse, but he's not Deion Sanders and learning to play cornerback in the NFL doesn't happen over night. I think he will continue to improve and be one of the better corners we've had here in a long while.

Look the problem is when you get ZERO pressure on the quarterback your CB's can only cover for so long. That is why they look bad at times. Get pressure on the QB and we would all be talking how good J-Joe and Hall are.

12th in defensive yardage isn't bad, but tied for 2nd last in the league in sacks is awful. Two players finished with more sacks than our team.

Hall is OK. He might even make a Pro Bowl or two in his career, which for DB's is all about getting picks. I reality, he tackles well and fills a LOT harder against the run than any Bengal's DB in recent history, but he is a liability in pass coverage. However, if we had more consistent safety play and ANY pass rush, it wouldn't be as big of a concern. So, overall, I like Hall--he tries hard, he's a good guy off the field, and he's an over-achiever. Look, if the Patriots can win games with Hank Poteat, we can win with Leon Hall. Fix the front seven--especially the pass rush--and Hall will be good.

J-Jo, on the other hand, has All-Pro talent. Get him healthy and back in the lineup.

I don't know if we can fully judge Leon Hall, or any of the other CBs, yet, as we all know, the secondary is only as good as the pass rush - and lets face it, while our D is improved, they still couldn't put enough pressure on QBs, which means that the CBs were hung out to dry.

Hall is fine. I don't see him as a CB to put on the opposing team's #1 guy, but we have J Joe for that. We just need to get a line that gets pressure and forces the QB to throw - then the interceptions will follow.

Jason, you're up one delicious sundae. But it's even better than that. After week 16 (Cleveland), they had the 21st ranked defense in yards allowed. And as you said, after week 17 (Kansas City), they were all the way up to #12.

That's right. They jumped 9 spots in the last game of the season by holding the almighty Chiefs to 220 yards.

Am I missing something? Didn't we have more than a few games where the opposing team had such a large lead at halftime that all they had to do was play ball-control to ease out a win? When your opponent is more worried about time off the clock than running up the score, you probably won't see huge down-the-field passing plays. This can give a misleading YPG stat.

Is that Troy Blackburn comment legit? I know we say some things on here but if that really is the case I will throw up in my mouth.

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